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how many has read the rules on naming players/teams??
never
14%
 14%  [ 27 ]
briefly
20%
 20%  [ 38 ]
yes
29%
 29%  [ 55 ]
yes but off course i have
30%
 30%  [ 57 ]
rules on naming????
3%
 3%  [ 7 ]
Total Votes : 184


sk8bcn



Joined: Apr 13, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 17, 2005 - 12:09 Reply with quote Back to top

I didn't read them or maybe I did but I forgot them

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PhilMan



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Post   Posted: Jul 17, 2005 - 12:21 Reply with quote Back to top

nope, never read them, but its mainly common sense anyway isnt it?

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PurpleChest



Joined: Oct 25, 2003

Post   Posted: Jul 17, 2005 - 13:22
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I think it was purple atually not that i hold it against him


I did see the smiley, but you'd be amazed at the number that DO blame us for THEM ignoring the rules. Like it's our fault. You made the team dude, it's your fault if it doesnt get through.

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Laviak



Joined: Jul 19, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 17, 2005 - 13:31 Reply with quote Back to top

That's because it IS your fault!!! If you visited the home of every new FUMBBL coach, and physically forced them to read the rules, the problem would be greatly reduced. Very Happy

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Shintyboy



Joined: Jan 29, 2005

Post   Posted: Jul 17, 2005 - 13:43 Reply with quote Back to top

I broke the rules once but it was through stupidity: I gave 2 consecutive players the same name. It got rejected. Appologies to the admins.

Although an entire team called bob might be fun.
mymLaban



Joined: Apr 20, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 18, 2005 - 18:46 Reply with quote Back to top

PurpleChest wrote:
Interestingly 'Family Friendly' is a policy, not a rule, and doesnt appear on that page at all.




it pops up as soon as you make a new team and get to the Team name part :

No profanity. Keep it nice and family-friendly.
Do not use all uppercase.
Do not begin your team name with "The". It's not necessary.
Mezir



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jul 18, 2005 - 19:04 Reply with quote Back to top

Shintyboy wrote:
Although an entire team called bob might be fun.


This is close. Smile

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Ironbreaker



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jul 18, 2005 - 19:15 Reply with quote Back to top

I find two problems with the rules:
1-Being portuguese I have had problems with having my team approved because nobody in the approval section knew portuguese and they where waiting "for someone who spoke spanish" (who will not understand the names all the same)
2-There is no control of the players that are accepted after the team is approved so I can buy a player with the longest name I imagine and nobody will see it except my opponents.
Ideas:
-get someone who speaks portuguese.
-use a system that controls player's names.
Mezir



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jul 18, 2005 - 19:26 Reply with quote Back to top

You want us to do an individual approval of all players that are bought in an already approved team? That's insane. I say we stick to just punishing the people we catch being idiots about buying new players.

Getting someone who speaks Portuguese is probably a good idea as well though i'l quite sure at least one of our approvers will speak the language.

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celas



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jul 18, 2005 - 20:06 Reply with quote Back to top

I voted yes, although I did not read the rules very well until I had a team banned for its name.

Well I first started playing I had a team called "Rollerblading Nazis From Hell." It was the name of a B-movie that had nothing to do with Nazis (pro or con) and my team Bio was blank. It was accepted and then banned after a few games because someone complained about it. This was before I had read the rules, but I still do not think the name it is that offensive. This is not meant to start a debate on whether my team should be allowed (because I will always honor the rules of the site) but as long as there are teams approved such as the following, we will need both consistency from approvers and coaches. (As a side note, the team's name was changed from Nazis to Nuns, which was probably more funny in retrospect).

http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=170183
http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=40354
http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=40383
http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=22097
http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=8016
http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=25951
http://fumbbl.com/~AssMaster2000
http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=96305
http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=83044
http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=155921
http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=69608
http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=44902
http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=32114 At least mildly offensive as another Fumbbl coach was named on this team (albeit added after team creation).
http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=150583
http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=110243
http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=39265
http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=142840 (Tell me a victim of sexual assault would be happy about this).
http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=62170
http://fumbbl.com/~nigger This guy actually had a tourney set up (with no teams in it, but still listed in the groups) that I sent in a support ticket for and it included his coach name in it if I remember it right.

I know some of these teams are really old and many have not played more than a few games. I think the approvers do a great job, and if they need help checking past teams, either I or others could help out.
Ironbreaker



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jul 19, 2005 - 11:11 Reply with quote Back to top

What I proposed was a system that blocked certain names I don't know how hard it is to program but it's possible for instance hotmail installed something like that recently for passwords so you can't use passwords like "qwerty", obviously it would be impossible to check every new players name. Good idea punishing players that are caught in the mean time.
Karlon



Joined: Feb 09, 2005

Post   Posted: Jul 22, 2005 - 20:14 Reply with quote Back to top

I hadn't read them, but my Orcs (Mak's Madedz) break rule number 1 and upload fine. Aside from that im good on all counts, i always like to have alliteration in my team names that actually sound like team names. IE, Sunadi Sirens, Maks Madedz, Waist-High Wonders, etc.

I try to theme the names of all my players to the race they are, except my Orcs who i named after friends in an IRC channel. Its fun to see who dies first and whatnot.
BadMrMojo



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jul 23, 2005 - 02:40 Reply with quote Back to top

Celas's list has been double-checked and the offending English names have been altered. I don't entirely agree with all of the points implied, but if someone is offended, then it gets changed.

If you are on that list and have any complaints about the renaming of your team, then just email me at dev@null.com.

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G_Force



Joined: Aug 19, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 24, 2005 - 20:58 Reply with quote Back to top

Yes, i did read the rules when i signed up and i just read them again now.

I also found this thread by searching for team and approval for reasons revealed later....

Shintyboy wrote:
I broke the rules once but it was through stupidity: I gave 2 consecutive players the same name. It got rejected. Appologies to the admins.

Although an entire team called bob might be fun.


I broke this rule too by mistake but the team got approved anyway so i sought admin help to fix it (bunsen and bunsen should have been, and now is, bunsen and beaker)

I also then asked the same question and it gave rise to this team (why is it always Bob?) and they got approved with no questions maybe coz the fluff is plain for all to see.


Now here comes my reason for searching a team approval forum and this seemed like the best one....

I read the original rules when i joined and reread the team names thing at the start of this thread and i understand that names need checking and this can take a while sometimes - no complaint so far.
It is the task of the so called "approval monkeys" to carry this out but so far as i can see it written they will check new teams and approve or reject new teams (rejections i have had (2 maybe) have also been accompanied with a brief and polite explaination) but where does it say that approvers will monkey with your players names and change them such that they make no sense (either alone or as a team for fluff)
Case in point
If the original name is not a problem how do i get it changed back to what it should be. If it is a probelm (and i don't see why it would be) how do i change it to something different that still makes sense?

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PurpleChest



Joined: Oct 25, 2003

Post   Posted: Jul 24, 2005 - 22:02
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Once a team is approved you can still delete/retire it and resubmit another.

As to changing a name once a team has played. I believe it is policy for this not to be allowed. Database issues.

Player names can be changed by asking your local approval monkey nicely. Try #approval.

Just an opinion, but as monkeys are notoriously fickle creatures you might want to start along the lines of 'You are all lovely people who do a great job for free, what i posted in the forums was to get information and start a discussion, not personal in any way. Now anyone fancy doing me a favour? I'd be really genuinely greatful.'

(and no where is it written that monkeys won't monkey with your teams during approval if you are contravening the rules and guidelines)
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