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FredrikJ
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2013-01-06 00:48:18
rating 5.2
2013-01-02 22:49:34
rating 2.7
2013-01-02 22:49:34
12 votes, rating 2.7
Basic Rules Mistake
To me (its MY blog, after all) the best part of the game is the bat-shit-crazy moves people do to get the ball and score, and the best games are the ones where the ball often changes hand and there are a lot of ballhandling. Of course this is poor coaching - a perfectly played game should consist of two pickups, two touchdowns and perhaps some 20 2D blocks.

The fundamental mistake in the rules I think is this: The offense take the first turn after a touchdown. Too often this leads to a rather boring game, early bad dice and 6-7 turns of next to hopeless attempts of retrieving the ball from an opposing team that not only outnumbers you, but has a much better position. Each low-chance attempt usually puts you in worse position, and makes the outnumbering worse. I'm thinking that sometimes the best move is to just keep hitting "End Turn" and hope for better luck in the next half - at least a shot at a draw. But by Nuffle, that'd be boring. Of course the opposing coach stalls, does pretty much nothing, keeps his position and waits for the last turn to score. After all, scoring costs him pretty much everything - position, possession of the ball, initiative.

What if the defense took first turn? Scoring would lose you the possession of the ball, but you'd get the initiative. The defense still should set up first, so some of the carnage would be lost - most coaches wouldn't put their LoS people next to the obvious killers of course. Slower teams would have to spread out to cover their half from the defense trying to sack the landing ball. Scoring when recieving would no longer be quite so easy (as it usually is when you're not getting that 1, 1 or [SKULL][SKULL], [SKULL][SKULL] kick in your teeth), and I think there would be a lot more weird, exciting and fun things happening on the pitch.

Of course it would take a whole lot of rebalancing of teams and skills and whatnot. But I think making scoring any Touchdown but the winning one a Bad Thing(tm) was a mistake.
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Posted by PainState on 2013-01-02 22:59:53
You do realize that this zany game is based on American Football AND that is how it works?

OR another way of looking at it.

Basically you advocate that the defense allways gets a blitz move to start off every kick off. Well good coaches would adjust to that change in the game and we would all be back at square 1. Granted some tactics would change from the norm but in the end it would not change the dynamic of the game to such an extent that you wish it would.
Posted by latulike on 2013-01-02 23:09:23
How about you improve your defending coaching skills (the hardest part in BB) instead of trying to rewrite nearly 25 years old rules?

You have to adapt your playstyle vs. The kind of opponent you plays against.
Overall hints on D: take as many few blocks against ad you can.
-Predict accurately where the ball WILL be next turn.
-don't overcommit your position.
-If you suffer a long stall from your opponent, that is because you have failed defending properly.
Posted by Overhamsteren on 2013-01-02 23:42:59
Sounds like a cool idea to me ;D
Posted by Wreckage on 2013-01-03 00:05:22
Hm, I always figured balance wise it would be best if offense starts first (since its offense) but also sets up first.

I also thought that it is quite obvious but that the designers made a choice to do it differently.

Anyhow, Blood Bowl is awsome.
Posted by PaddyMick on 2013-01-03 01:40:07
I agree with wreckage
Posted by neoliminal on 2013-01-03 04:15:29
The risk is always there that defense would move first with a blitz action (roll of 10 on kick-off table 8.33% or 1 in 12.)

The idea of who sets up first, I always thought, should be left to a coaching roll. 2D6 + Assistant Coaches.

Purely for house rules fun. The game works as is.
Posted by johnalex on 2013-01-03 04:58:35
Hmm... dunno why this is so poorly rated. Some things were silly, off maybe, but overall some important musings that are rarely... (mused?)
Posted by DonTomaso on 2013-01-03 05:06:16
Some cool ideas there...

Another one I though would be fun would be that the game was for "first to 3 TDs", and that one didn't set up again after the TD, one guy of the defenders, ran to the TD-zone and got the ball, and they were off again.