SillySod
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Dec 17, 2007 - 08:52 |
 
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Hi, this thread is a shoot off of another thread: Team Concept: Halfling Pros/Positionals get a re-vamp!
Basicly the argument is whether halflings (and for that matter any other creature) should be different in Stunty as compared to Ranked and if they are different then how different they should be.
Please check out the other thread if you want any idea of the rational roots of the argument. If you arent bothered or didnt read it properly then be prepared to be hunted down and burnt.
Someday this debate may reach a resolution, but that depends on how soon we can unleash the rabid monkey into Shadow's house. |
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Craftnburn
Joined: Jul 29, 2005
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Dec 17, 2007 - 08:56 |
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| SillySod wrote: | | Someday this debate may reach a resolution, but that depends on how soon we can unleash the rabid monkey into Shadow's house. |
Don't you mean a second rabid monkey into Shadow's house?  |
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Diabl0658
Joined: Oct 05, 2004
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Dec 17, 2007 - 08:59 |
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fix the link |
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SillySod
Joined: Oct 10, 2006
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Dec 17, 2007 - 09:05 |
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I still dont see a reason for them being tougher relative to a goblin.
Shadow, your argument seems to be that halflings are as tough as a goblin, or can be.
Like I said, I'll try and sift through some of my good halfling fluffness stuff that i have at home (I might be quite a bit delayed in doing this, it'll be my first time home in many months). For now I'll just point at the halfling stat that we already have, it says quite clearly that halflings are significantly less tough than goblins. I think that this is already intended to bring halflings into line with their correct fluff. |
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SillySod
Joined: Oct 10, 2006
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Dec 17, 2007 - 09:07 |
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| Diabl0658 wrote: | | fix the link |
ooooo, point
old link |
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Pirog
Joined: Jul 13, 2006
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Dec 17, 2007 - 09:14 |
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I agree that halflings shouldn't be tougher than goblins. It just doesn't feel right. |
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shadow46x2
Joined: Nov 22, 2003
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Dec 17, 2007 - 09:43 |
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if you're talking about the "hi we're flings and we get thrown around by trees!" ranked flings....
sure, i agree...
if you're talking about a new breed of flings that are being designed for stunty that have different fluff, and a different "method" if you will than typical flings...
then no i don't agree....
to take it one step further....if your logic of "it's a fling it should be the same" was applied to all races...."it's an elf, it should be the same" we'd never have av8 delfs/helfs....or depending on which came first, av7 woodies/pro elves...
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SillySod
Joined: Oct 10, 2006
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Dec 17, 2007 - 10:18 |
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Shadow. Thats a deliberately BS argument.
Surely you can see that there is still an average statline for each race. This average does not change but where it does there is always a specific reason in the fluff and some kind of compensation or punishment for the change. |
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Pirog
Joined: Jul 13, 2006
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Dec 17, 2007 - 10:19 |
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Sure, but an elf with MA 5 ST 4 AG 2 and AV 9 would feel weird as well. Small variations might work, but I have for example seen halflings with AV 8 and I hate them even more than gnomes. |
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shadow46x2
Joined: Nov 22, 2003
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Dec 17, 2007 - 10:27 |
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| SillySod wrote: | Shadow. Thats a deliberately BS argument.
Surely you can see that there is still an average statline for each race. This average does not change but where it does there is always a specific reason in the fluff and some kind of compensation or punishment for the change. |
how is it a deliberately BS argument? because it contradicts your faulty opinion?
if you keep holding onto these stereotypes that reaces must be a specific way, and can't deviate from that, then spinoffs will never exist...
and last i checked, there is a compensation between the ranked flings and the proposed flings....
--j
ps...and pirog...the change being suggested is a minor change...so be content  |
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SillySod
Joined: Oct 10, 2006
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Dec 17, 2007 - 10:36 |
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But the compensation has always previously been in the statline. Look at elves. No all lineman elf team has a distinct advantage over another without there being a distinct disadvantage too.
It may be a minor change but it makes the flings seem less... flingy... and that would taint the love that you could bestow on the team. |
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Pirog
Joined: Jul 13, 2006
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Dec 17, 2007 - 10:43 |
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If it's ST 3 and AV 8 halflings it's not minor. It's enormous. Might not unbalance the team much, but fluff wise that's not a stunty player by any means. |
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shadow46x2
Joined: Nov 22, 2003
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Dec 17, 2007 - 10:50 |
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really?..
lino stat line huh?....ok you have a point there...
so i guess that delfs 6348 isn't superior to pro elf 6347 then right?
i'll have to remember that next time i make up an elf team
--j |
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Cloggy
Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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Dec 17, 2007 - 11:02 |
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Gotta love these stunty discussions...........
Some people obviously have a lot of growing up to do.
And I'm not talking about the Halflings here  |
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shadow46x2
Joined: Nov 22, 2003
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Dec 17, 2007 - 11:03 |
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| Pirog wrote: | | If it's ST 3 and AV 8 halflings it's not minor. It's enormous. Might not unbalance the team much, but fluff wise that's not a stunty player by any means. |
pirog, the debate in question was in reference to the following
5236 dodge, stunty, right stuff - ranked fling lino
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5237 dodge, stunty - stunty pro fling lino
not the stoutboy
--j |
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