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Lirisa



Joined: Mar 07, 2017

Post   Posted: Mar 12, 2017 - 14:28 Reply with quote Back to top

bghandras wrote:
ag6 does NOTHING about passing. Really. Never ever any difference. Not even long bomb.


Ag 6 or above makes unmodified agility roll 1+.

Quick pass adds 1, but, 1 is always a critical failure, so it's +1.

Short pass is no modifer it's +1.

Long pass is -1 so it's +2.

Long Bomb is -2 so it's +3



AG 5 is +2

Quick pass is +1, so it's +1.

Short pass is no modifer,so it's +2.

Long pass is -1, so it's +3.

Long Bomb is -2, so it's +4

With accurate on AG 6, makes long pass 1+ and long bomb +2 and if the player had strong arm Long bomb would be 1+ as well.

If a player could get maybe an aglity 4 and catch in the opponent's they could just shoot the ball in the endzone turn 2 maybe.
bghandras



Joined: Feb 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Mar 12, 2017 - 14:48 Reply with quote Back to top

That is only 1 side of the story. The other side is you need to avoid fumbble the pass. That is 2+. Long bomb makes it 4+. Agility is not involved in that. If you doubt then test it yourself.

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licker



Joined: Jul 10, 2009

Post   Posted: Mar 12, 2017 - 15:52 Reply with quote Back to top

Why are you passing anyway? Passing is for noobs and people who have inverted goatees. I even saw a guy without a shirt try a pass once, but he wasn't buff at all, I think he was just hot or too stupid to know how to put one on.

If you're like me you only try to pass when you misclick, and even then, it's probably after getting hit in the head by a dumbbell you were working your tris with.

Moral or the story? Real men don't pass.
KhorneliusPraxx



Joined: Jul 28, 2005

Post   Posted: Mar 12, 2017 - 16:16 Reply with quote Back to top

When asked if you want Agility 6...YOU SAY "YES"!!!

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pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006

Post   Posted: Mar 12, 2017 - 16:28 Reply with quote Back to top

it looks cool?

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PainState



Joined: Apr 04, 2007

Post   Posted: Mar 12, 2017 - 17:27 Reply with quote Back to top

Look at it this way when it comes to passing.

You have accurate and Strong arm for +2, you throw a Long Bomb -2. SO, you fumble the ball on a 1 roll.

Ag 5 is 2+ for accurate pass and 1 you fumble
AG 6 is 2+ for accurate pass and 1 you fumble
You always fumble on a natural 1.

AG6 is godly for dodging and picking up the ball.

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thoralf



Joined: Mar 06, 2008

Post   Posted: Mar 12, 2017 - 18:05 Reply with quote Back to top

AG6 is Two Heads and almost Big Hand rolled into one.

AG5 begs for Leap, +ST and Frenzeh.

But there is always Sneaky Git.

Oh, and please leave the KonfuzARR things to me.

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PeteW



Joined: Aug 05, 2005

Post   Posted: Mar 12, 2017 - 18:58 Reply with quote Back to top

Aha. 3-2=1 so fumble. Thanks guys.

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JackassRampant



Joined: Feb 26, 2011

Post   Posted: Mar 12, 2017 - 19:33 Reply with quote Back to top

AG6 is better than AG5 the way AG5 is better than AG4, except for passes. Passing is less common than dodging or picking up or catching, and not much more common than intercepting, unless the player is a dedicated passer, in which case AG6 is still nice 'cuz such players do a lot of pickups and AG6 allows for shenanigans.

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mrt1212



Joined: Feb 26, 2013

Post   Posted: Mar 12, 2017 - 20:07 Reply with quote Back to top

licker wrote:
Why are you passing anyway? Passing is for noobs and people who have inverted goatees. I even saw a guy without a shirt try a pass once, but he wasn't buff at all, I think he was just hot or too stupid to know how to put one on.

If you're like me you only try to pass when you misclick, and even then, it's probably after getting hit in the head by a dumbbell you were working your tris with.

Moral or the story? Real men don't pass.


Good thing elves aren't men.
ArrestedDevelopment



Joined: Sep 14, 2015

Post   Posted: Mar 12, 2017 - 21:11 Reply with quote Back to top

On a vamp, sure.

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fidius



Joined: Jun 17, 2011

Post   Posted: Mar 12, 2017 - 21:32 Reply with quote Back to top

I made this chart a few years back which may be helpful.

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Also on TFF here.


Last edited by fidius on Mar 13, 2017 - 01:56; edited 2 times in total
Verminardo



Joined: Sep 27, 2006

Post   Posted: Mar 12, 2017 - 22:30 Reply with quote Back to top

AG6 is a case of diminishing returns. I would take it on a Wardancer and mayyybe on a Gutter Runner or Wood Elf Catcher, because they can afford the skill slot. I'd skip it on anyone else.
ArrestedDevelopment



Joined: Sep 14, 2015

Post   Posted: Mar 12, 2017 - 23:07 Reply with quote Back to top

Verminardo wrote:
AG6 is a case of diminishing returns. I would take it on a Wardancer and mayyybe on a Gutter Runner or Wood Elf Catcher, because they can afford the skill slot. I'd skip it on anyone else.


I'd say a vamp makes better use of it than any of those.

Reliable gaze even in a crowd is crazy good, and it's one of the few situations you can say you'll probably use the +AG every game.

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JellyBelly



Joined: Jul 08, 2009

Post   Posted: Mar 12, 2017 - 23:53 Reply with quote Back to top

If you don't take AG6, how are you ever going to get to AG7?

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