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2013-08-05 21:56:58
27 votes, rating 3.3
27 votes, rating 3.3
"New" rule set
I'm sure people talked about it already but here I go:
In the new rule set in order for teams to be "optimal" you need to keep them near 11 players. Also, some positional are not worth it, and a lot of big guys aint either. In order for a team to be "optimal", a player needs to evaluate the real value of the player or skill up and evaluate it against TV. As such, taking +ag on a dwarf slayer or blocker is simply not worth it, ag 3 isnt worth mb + po, or guard + mb.
Also, rerolls suffer diminishing returns greatly and you want between 3-4 while in lrb4 you could go at 5 or even 6.
This is somewhat coupled with spiralling expense.
Spiralling expense, TV cherrypicking and ogre teams might be my biggest critique to the new ruleset.
(I know its kinda late)
In the new rule set in order for teams to be "optimal" you need to keep them near 11 players. Also, some positional are not worth it, and a lot of big guys aint either. In order for a team to be "optimal", a player needs to evaluate the real value of the player or skill up and evaluate it against TV. As such, taking +ag on a dwarf slayer or blocker is simply not worth it, ag 3 isnt worth mb + po, or guard + mb.
Also, rerolls suffer diminishing returns greatly and you want between 3-4 while in lrb4 you could go at 5 or even 6.
This is somewhat coupled with spiralling expense.
Spiralling expense, TV cherrypicking and ogre teams might be my biggest critique to the new ruleset.
(I know its kinda late)
Comments
Posted by easilyamused on 2013-08-05 22:15:52
So you want a ruleset that encourages min/maxing?
Posted by C3I2 on 2013-08-05 22:24:44
I don't see him writing that.
Posted by easilyamused on 2013-08-05 22:31:47
Lets look at the key points here
1. near 11 players
2. not all players/skills are TV optimal
3. not too many RR's
That looks like a recipe to min/max to me.
1. near 11 players
2. not all players/skills are TV optimal
3. not too many RR's
That looks like a recipe to min/max to me.
Posted by C3I2 on 2013-08-05 22:47:35
So, he analyzes the current rule set. Where exactly do you see he likes or prefers it?
Posted by easilyamused on 2013-08-05 23:01:51
Ahhhh, I'm guessing he has only recently come back to the site.
The "new" threw me as it isn't actually new.
With the new interpretation.
Don't worry about optimisation, far too many lamers who are more interested in winning than having fun on the site already.
The "new" threw me as it isn't actually new.
With the new interpretation.
Don't worry about optimisation, far too many lamers who are more interested in winning than having fun on the site already.
Posted by Soulmask on 2013-08-06 15:34:14
No, I DONT want min/maxing.
If anything blood bowl should be a fun game that encourages players to have 16 players, a deathroller or minotaur, and the rerolls they want.
I mean not taking the deathroller EVER in order to win seems like the contrary of what the spirit of bloodbowl is.
If anything blood bowl should be a fun game that encourages players to have 16 players, a deathroller or minotaur, and the rerolls they want.
I mean not taking the deathroller EVER in order to win seems like the contrary of what the spirit of bloodbowl is.
Posted by Soulmask on 2013-08-06 15:37:37
Lol I don't get why you guys voted me so low, everything I said is true and I'm against min/maxing which I guess a lot of people DONT like?
Posted by C3I2 on 2013-08-06 15:53:40
First four were 1´s, then a 6, followed by more normal votes. Its not that unusual, for people to misunderstand or not read then vote.
Posted by garyt1 on 2013-08-06 17:03:27
Fair points Soulmask. They have been discussed a lot but there are certainly some player and skill choices made more for value than fun. By some people more than others. The ruleset has some great improvements but also some significant flaws.
Posted by Craftnburn on 2013-08-06 17:07:58
All of the things you mentioned "encourage" people to min/max except 1. Spiraling Expenses FORCES you to do it! Worst new rule Evah! /me looks for my pitchfork and torches
Posted by pythrr on 2013-08-06 18:17:42
C3po, your grasp of english must be worse than we thought. This is clearly encouraging minmaxing, and for you to suggest otherwise suggests that (a) you are illiterate or (b) you are a sad troll.
Posted by C3I2 on 2013-08-06 21:33:28
There, one guy that voted 1! Let him explain himself.
Posted by harvestmouse on 2013-08-06 21:39:28
"First four were 1´s, then a 6, followed by more normal votes. Its not that unusual, for people to misunderstand or not read then vote."
Ahhhh that explains why all your blogs are so low. Misunderstandings...
soulmask can you explain 'TV cherrypicking'. Surely TR cherrypicking was much more of a problem, wasn't it?
Ahhhh that explains why all your blogs are so low. Misunderstandings...
soulmask can you explain 'TV cherrypicking'. Surely TR cherrypicking was much more of a problem, wasn't it?