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2011-04-05 21:04:12
19 votes, rating 4.8
19 votes, rating 4.8
Undead Strategy 1
I believe everyone has a team style that fits their play style well. For myself i have found it to be undead teams. I have tried almost every race, and even though i had i blast with Skaven my Win/Lose record was piss poor.
I started playing with undead and haven't looked back. After 50 games with my team i have won about half of my games. I am sure there are much more experienced Undead Coaches than myself, but i am going to start Blogging some tactics with hope for some input from people on the site as well as for the ability to look back on my mistakes myself.
First of all contrary to what i started out thinking your Wights and Mummies are not your most important players, I feel that to have a successful team you need to field 4 ghouls at all times. it is much more important to have 2 sets of ghouls than any other position on the team, a pair of strip ballers, with strip ball and wrestle and a pair of carriers with Block, sure hands and sidestep,
Now then as i have seen when i lost my 2 mummies and 2 wights in quick succession, You cannot win with just ghouls, i have had a few 2 to 3 game losing streaks at TV with low lvl wights, and mummies and experienced ghouls.
That being said your mummies should be roadblock, Guard, Stand firm, break tackle guys, with block if you are lucky enough to roll a double. You should preferably have one on the line and another a bit father back to support your ball carriers. You need these guys to stay upright as much as possible and assist your other linemen and players.
Your wights are your heavy hitters. A nice Combo of MB/PO/Tackle with guard thrown in somewhere. to take out enemy ball carriers. Eliminate the opponents Main ball carries and with the exception of elves the team with greatly be hindered.
For your linemen i prefer 3 zombies with Block and Fend And a skeleton or 2 with Block and the Dirty Player. These guys die in droves, but if you can manage to take a few enemies with you great for your team
These are a self reflection of some skill combo's i have tried that have worked well for myself. I would love to hear anyone's thoughts or opinions and i apologize for the novel.
I will take another stab at some undead strategy when i find something pertinent i want to discuss. These skill selection's are my own opinion and i am always willing to hear of alternate paths to victory
I started playing with undead and haven't looked back. After 50 games with my team i have won about half of my games. I am sure there are much more experienced Undead Coaches than myself, but i am going to start Blogging some tactics with hope for some input from people on the site as well as for the ability to look back on my mistakes myself.
First of all contrary to what i started out thinking your Wights and Mummies are not your most important players, I feel that to have a successful team you need to field 4 ghouls at all times. it is much more important to have 2 sets of ghouls than any other position on the team, a pair of strip ballers, with strip ball and wrestle and a pair of carriers with Block, sure hands and sidestep,
Now then as i have seen when i lost my 2 mummies and 2 wights in quick succession, You cannot win with just ghouls, i have had a few 2 to 3 game losing streaks at TV with low lvl wights, and mummies and experienced ghouls.
That being said your mummies should be roadblock, Guard, Stand firm, break tackle guys, with block if you are lucky enough to roll a double. You should preferably have one on the line and another a bit father back to support your ball carriers. You need these guys to stay upright as much as possible and assist your other linemen and players.
Your wights are your heavy hitters. A nice Combo of MB/PO/Tackle with guard thrown in somewhere. to take out enemy ball carriers. Eliminate the opponents Main ball carries and with the exception of elves the team with greatly be hindered.
For your linemen i prefer 3 zombies with Block and Fend And a skeleton or 2 with Block and the Dirty Player. These guys die in droves, but if you can manage to take a few enemies with you great for your team
These are a self reflection of some skill combo's i have tried that have worked well for myself. I would love to hear anyone's thoughts or opinions and i apologize for the novel.
I will take another stab at some undead strategy when i find something pertinent i want to discuss. These skill selection's are my own opinion and i am always willing to hear of alternate paths to victory
Comments
Posted by PigStar-69 on 2011-04-05 21:21:01
keep plugging away fella. undead can really rock and dont underestimate the zombies. i personally field a max of 3 ghouls and often i only field 2. i prefer to play the numbers game with undead and use zombies to foul or to hold up oposition playersby standing in tacklezones. zombies make great shields for your more precious players. if you field 4 ghouls at a time you can often be looking at a scenerio where youu have nothing left to play with and the game can be losst early on. perhaps the onnly time i would even think of using 4 ghouls would be vs weak elfs or vamps etc.
i will often bench 1 or 2 ghouls and use them mainly on offense or for when i get outbashed. i will then use ghouls for a bit of elfball ;-).
for me in defense i would feild 2 ghouls 2 wights 2 mummies and 5 zoms and even sometimes i would go up to 6 zoms with 1 ghoul. the numbers game imo is the best way to play all the dead teams
i will often bench 1 or 2 ghouls and use them mainly on offense or for when i get outbashed. i will then use ghouls for a bit of elfball ;-).
for me in defense i would feild 2 ghouls 2 wights 2 mummies and 5 zoms and even sometimes i would go up to 6 zoms with 1 ghoul. the numbers game imo is the best way to play all the dead teams
Posted by JigerJones on 2011-04-05 21:39:58
A lot depends on the opponent of course. I'm with Pigstar, usually only 2 ghouls at a time, unless you are playing elves. Zombies are great for man-marking and fouling. If they get hurt, who cares? Also you have to be careful with the ghouls, opponents generally will go after them hard.
Posted by Macavity on 2011-04-05 21:50:34
4 ghouls are actually a lot to get rid of. Though the bashier undead teams have had success in the right hands, my 'fast' undead team is so far doing great in the win department despite losing almost a ghoul a game to death.
Don't confuse what you see a lot of with what works best.
Don't confuse what you see a lot of with what works best.
Posted by jimimothybodles on 2011-04-05 21:50:39
"...i have won about half and have won about half."
that IS impressive :D
that IS impressive :D
Posted by Garion on 2011-04-05 22:00:20
I have just started playing with undead as well. My record isnt great and i have thrown away about 5 games stupidly now. Nowi have go the hang of them a bit more at a low TV they seem to be one of the best defensive sides about for a complete lock out. If you dont take any risks at all and just play a wall defence there is very little epople can about your 2 st5 pieces and your ghouls protecting the rear.
Posted by robocoyote on 2011-04-05 22:36:58
I like the idea of ghouls being able to attack on every side for defensive purposes, and fielding only 1 ghouls would defeat the purpose of my strip ballers, honestly i play my ghouls almost skaven/elf like blitz/push/stripball another one picks up ball and runs away, i find this works well if you can get them chasing your ghouls while having wights pick of straggling defenders.
and thanks for the typo catch jimimothy
and thanks for the typo catch jimimothy
Posted by Wraith on 2011-04-06 06:06:00
I use mummies to control the LoS. I use zombies to take hits and tie-up opposing players. I use one wight as my damage dealer (MB/PO/tackle/dauntless/juggernaut/jump-up is optimal), the other wight is used as more of a free safety (tackle/pass block/guard). I never have more than two ghouls on my roster, but I min/max my undead, my ghouls are support players in my strategies... I take block > side step > diving tackle > tackle on normal skill-ups, I take guard on doubles and hopefully leader on one of them with a second double.
Generally, opponents are too busy trying to deal with your zombies and mummies to really out-number your wights and ghouls. This allows me to lie in wait and spring on any mistakes. Ghouls are important, but I use them as harassers, keeping the pressure on my opponent to spread his team out.
Generally, opponents are too busy trying to deal with your zombies and mummies to really out-number your wights and ghouls. This allows me to lie in wait and spring on any mistakes. Ghouls are important, but I use them as harassers, keeping the pressure on my opponent to spread his team out.
Posted by JimmyFantastic on 2011-04-06 22:18:10
make both wights tackle pomb mens
foul lots
foul lots