BillBrasky
Joined: Feb 15, 2005
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Oct 12, 2014 - 15:52 |
 
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An even greater fix would be to merge ranked & league. Call it "Open."
There can only be one true division. Highlander!!! err, I mean Black Box! |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Oct 12, 2014 - 15:53 |
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| xnoelx wrote: | | All this whining about "I don't want to play games that it's impossible to win" is no more true about TV gap games than it is about games vs a much higher ranked coach, or with an all snotling team vs a tier 1 team, or any other combination you care to name. |
Well it is a little different isn't it.
Let's compare it to Fifa or CoD.
Sometimes you will get matched vs people who are much much better than you and they will kick your ass - fair play to them, better players should beat worse ones.
If you choose to use a 3rd Division team or a really bad class then of course you are going to be in for a tough time - your choice.
I would not be happy about playing a game of Fifa where the best team I could use was Ipswich and my opponent had a team of Cristiano Ronaldos, and I would not be happy about a game of CoD where my opponent had a class that I couldn't possibly make which had some ridiculously overpowered weapon. |
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Balle2000
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Oct 12, 2014 - 15:58 |
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Well, yes, Fifa and CoD is a little different...  |
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xnoelx
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Oct 12, 2014 - 16:02 |
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But neither of those games has the random elements introduced by rolling a load of dice. Nor, frankly, do they have as much room for tactics to influence the result. Or an inducement system. It's really not much of an analogy. |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Oct 12, 2014 - 16:06 |
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Jeffro
Joined: Jan 22, 2009
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Oct 12, 2014 - 16:08 |
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| BillBrasky wrote: | An even greater fix would be to merge ranked & league. Call it "Open."
There can only be one true division. Highlander!!! err, I mean Black Box! |
Can't merge Ranked and League, though, Big Daddy. League allows building to get folks to certain TV's uncompetitively so newbie teams can be up to snuff against more established teams. Can't have that in a division with major tourneys. Just can't. |
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CCSenor
Joined: Aug 15, 2009
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Oct 12, 2014 - 16:08 |
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I'm with Noel, Balle and Dunenzed ( all human box coaches, coincidence ? ) in that i much prefer the new box scheduler and enjoy the variety and the chance to use/face inducements occasionally.
In my experience it is only occasionally, as most of the time the match ups are close in TV and it would be great if there were more coaches giving box a go to make the scheduler work even better.
I like winning when the odds are stacked against me and if my team gets destroyed well i rebuild or make a new one, maybe I'm wrong but I don't believe this happens anymore now than at any other time since i played on FUMBBL.
I also enjoy the fact that there are two divisions as sometimes it's nice to choose the type of game i want to play against a coach of my choosing, maybe i miss something but I don't see how having a scheduler in ranked could ever work.
Each to their own, but i generally have 2 teams in each division and for various reasons switch between the two and i find this gives me plenty of variety and different challenges to keep things interesting.
I guess what i'm saying is I think it's fine the way it is and it will be even better after the updates later today.
It's a great site, It's free and It's fun if you want it to be. If your not enjoying it take a step back and look at yourself for the reason before abusing people or ranting about the ruleset.
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the_cursed_one
Joined: Feb 18, 2010
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Oct 12, 2014 - 16:09 |
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Something that I would like more clarification on is the concession rules. As it is if I remeber, you can conceed when the game is certainly lost.
And that is a very personal opinion depending on your skills and confidence in them |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Oct 12, 2014 - 16:11 |
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| Jeffro wrote: | | BillBrasky wrote: | An even greater fix would be to merge ranked & league. Call it "Open."
There can only be one true division. Highlander!!! err, I mean Black Box! |
Can't merge Ranked and League, though, Big Daddy. League allows building to get folks to certain TV's uncompetitively so newbie teams can be up to snuff against more established teams. Can't have that in a division with major tourneys. Just can't. |
Why not? |
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BillBrasky
Joined: Feb 15, 2005
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Oct 12, 2014 - 16:34 |
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You would have to move the tourneys to Box Jeffro. |
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keggiemckill
Joined: Oct 07, 2004
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Oct 12, 2014 - 16:40 |
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| CCSenor wrote: | I'm with Noel, Balle and Dunenzed ( all human box coaches, coincidence ? ) in that i much prefer the new box scheduler and enjoy the variety and the chance to use/face inducements occasionally.
In my experience it is only occasionally, as most of the time the match ups are close in TV and it would be great if there were more coaches giving box a go to make the scheduler work even better.
I like winning when the odds are stacked a.
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I also agree the new box scheduler is much better than the old one. There is less people playing on it, because there is less advantages to be taken, ie Min/Maxing.
Perhaps there is a way to have a Ranked Instant Smack scheduler?
| the_cursed_one wrote: | Something that I would like more clarification on is the concession rules. As it is if I remeber, you can conceed when the game is certainly lost.
And that is a very personal opinion depending on your skills and confidence in them |
Coming from the guy who concedes 1 game every ten, you may need some more clarification. I really don't know how you don't have this clarification from the concession suspensions you have accrued. It's common knowledge to anyone that has spent the amount of years you have on here, that you can only concede if you have less than 3 players to field on a Kickoff. If you concede for any other reason you are a pixel hugging sissy.
What is a Pixel Hughing Sissy? It's not what most people assume it is. It's the people that expect to make every roll every time they roll. It's the guy that expects to break everyone's armour, but expects his armour to hold up. It's the guy that thinks the world should be fair and just. It's that same guy who can't figure it out that not everyone cheers for you and the world is unfair and unjust.
I'll give you the problem with FUMBBL. There are too many downers on here. I wish studmandudebro was back here making us laugh. All we have left is a bunch of glass half empty mother F****ers who feel they should make everyone else feel the same way as they do. Nigglers Please. |
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JackassRampant
Joined: Feb 26, 2011
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Oct 12, 2014 - 16:42 |
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| Balle2000 wrote: | | My personal opinion is that Ranked is more of a building for tournaments/training environment, where maybe the most important skill for a coach to develop is knowing which match-ups to accept, and which to avoid. I'm very glad I can still play competitively on Fumbbl without the self-scheduling element. |
You don't have to play Ranked that way. You can just log on and take everything that comes, like a more convenient blackbox. If you find yourself getting bad matchups (you will), you can suck it up, or just greenlight the fair-looking fights, or play a string of rough ones and then find a recovery game. Or you can establish any other set of greenlight criteria you want. You can make "lure teams" that tempt people to play bad matchups (I run Underworld and all-lino Humans for this reason). Heck, you could hunt bad matchups to get better at playing them (I know coaches who do this), or to ditch a Legend tag, or whatever. Ranked is what you make it. |
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Synn
Joined: Dec 13, 2004
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Oct 12, 2014 - 16:45 |
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You can always show as a stat how many of a team's last 20 games came from the BB scheduler.
Call it the "Big Balls Rating". 
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Oct 12, 2014 - 16:46 |
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This is all very interesting etc... But personally I think both divisions are good places to get fun games of blood bowl. Nothing more nothing less. Let's all just have fun |
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Mr_Foulscumm
Joined: Mar 05, 2005
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Oct 12, 2014 - 16:48 |
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| JimmyFantastic wrote: | | Jeffro wrote: | | BillBrasky wrote: | An even greater fix would be to merge ranked & league. Call it "Open."
There can only be one true division. Highlander!!! err, I mean Black Box! |
Can't merge Ranked and League, though, Big Daddy. League allows building to get folks to certain TV's uncompetitively so newbie teams can be up to snuff against more established teams. Can't have that in a division with major tourneys. Just can't. |
Why not? |
Because.  |
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