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| Never Concede |
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57% |
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| Christmas Pie |
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14% |
[ 3 ] |
| WE Should Always Concede vs UW |
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28% |
[ 6 ] |
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| Total Votes : 21 |
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keggiemckill
Joined: Oct 07, 2004
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Dec 24, 2015 - 01:17 |
 
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Concession Bug
My opponent conceded during the game with one player (a Tree) left on field. Im not sure why he would receive winnings and MVP. Those should go to my team. I wrote out a support ticket (Bug report) on the matter.
Blood bowl Rulebook for:
CONCEDING
A coach that concedes (see page 15) before setting up for a kick-off where he could only field 2 or less players suffers no additional penalties. If one coach concedes the match for any other reason then the winner gains all of the loser’s winnings and MVP from this match. In addition, the loser automatically loses one Fan Factor and may not roll for a new one, and any players in the loser’s team that have 51 SPPs or more will leave the team on a D6 roll of 1-3. Roll separately for each player with 51 or more SPPs to see if they leave.
Fumbbl Rules for:
Concessions
-Concessions are to be made only when there is merit for them.
-In this context, merit means that the conceding team needs a reasonable in-game reason for conceding. The team taking excessive casualties is one acceptable reason to concede. -Other reasons include having a very distinct lack of players left to play with, or being clearly outplayed in terms of touchdowns.
-Conceding when none of the above circumstances are fulfilled will require admin approval.
-If you are unsure if your particular game qualifies for a concession, please consult the FUMBBL administration for a ruling.
-A match where the administration rules that a concession is acceptable, even though it does not fulfil the policy stated here will have its match report page marked to reflect this. |
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harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Dec 24, 2015 - 01:21 |
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pythrr
Joined: Mar 07, 2006
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Dec 24, 2015 - 01:25 |
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yeah, buggidy bug |
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keggiemckill
Joined: Oct 07, 2004
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Dec 24, 2015 - 01:27 |
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What is the resolution then? Can someone ban his team at the least, or maybe wag their finger at them? I feel robbed, when realistically I should feel happy about beating WE's.  |
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Kryten
Joined: Sep 02, 2003
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We accept the results as uploaded for such matches. |
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keggiemckill
Joined: Oct 07, 2004
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Dec 24, 2015 - 01:31 |
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| Kryten wrote: | | We accept the results as uploaded for such matches. |
Okay, I guess Ill have to live with it. |
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harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Dec 24, 2015 - 01:35 |
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| keggiemckill wrote: | | What is the resolution then? Can someone ban his team at the least, or maybe wag their finger at them? I feel robbed, when realistically I should feel happy about beating WE's. |
As that's the way it was coded, it isn't a bug exactly. It falls under 'known difference'. This means you play to that rule with this client (as you basically have no choice).
Where as, taking advantage of a 'bug' is illegal by site rules. For example the GFI/Leap bug (that gave you one extra square of movement). This was a bug, and taking advantage of it, wasn't allowed.
As for the concession, I'm not an admin. However having 1 player left on the field in my mind certainly falls under 'having a very distinct lack of players left to play'.
As for a support ticket, there's not much the staff can do, so most likely it'll be bounced back to you. In this situation a 'bug report' in the bug section labelled for Kalimar should be filled out. However as it is well known already, this has already been done.
So.........it's a coding issue that can only be fixed by Kalimar, and it's up to him how high a priority it is. The fact he coded it like that, could mean that it's extremely hard to do. I don't know........I'm not a coder, but I do know simple things on paper.....aren't always simple for them. |
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sheepycollins
Joined: Sep 21, 2015
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Dec 24, 2015 - 01:47 |
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| keggiemckill wrote: | | What is the resolution then? Can someone ban his team at the least, or maybe wag their finger at them? I feel robbed, when realistically I should feel happy about beating WE's. |
He conceded for valid reasons IE 1 player left, if you had scored in those last few turns and he only was able to set up the tree then would have been auto victory for you but he still would have got his cash and mvp.
I think asking someone's team to be banned for 30k and 5spp over a valid concession and the fact he had those rewards were not his fault he didn't cheat the system is down right insane, and if nothing else plain petty. |
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ArrestedDevelopment
Joined: Sep 14, 2015
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Dec 24, 2015 - 01:52 |
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Whether the concession is valid or not it's not great to concede when someone is certainly going to score and thus deny them the spp on their player. |
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keggiemckill
Joined: Oct 07, 2004
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Dec 24, 2015 - 01:54 |
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| harvestmouse wrote: |
Where as, taking advantage of a 'bug' is illegal by site rules. For example the GFI/Leap bug (that gave you one extra square of movement). This was a bug, and taking advantage of it, wasn't allowed.
As for the concession, I'm not an admin. However having 1 player left on the field in my mind certainly falls under 'having a very distinct lack of players left to play'.
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Yeah unfortunately them the breaks on this one. It could be argued that he Conceded to prevent me at not getting a TD, and not because of a lack of players. I was planning on scoring right away, and going for three, which also gave him a chance at a tie. He had more players in the KO bin than Injury Boxes, and lead me on Casualties. So having a lack of players on the field doesn't qualify as a distinct lack of players. Its a lack of players on a Kick Off set up.
I have to play the game out when I am not happy, so do most people. He should be expected to do the same. It was a 1-1 tie, going onto a 2-1 win for me. Maybe I passed the ball and failed it. Maybe it ended as a 1-1 tie for Ejected Fouls? I wasn't stalling. I didn't have a chance to stall. Watch the game for your own opinion. |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Dec 24, 2015 - 02:02 |
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Same thing has happened to me, if that's some consolation. |
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keggiemckill
Joined: Oct 07, 2004
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Dec 24, 2015 - 02:14 |
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| Balle2000 wrote: | | Same thing has happened to me, if that's some consolation. |
Well it does. XD
Im not angry about this, Im shocked to find out its the Norm. I didn't even know it was possible, which is obvious, because I don't concede. I just want it brought to light. My opponent probably doesn't know himself. Regardless, it is an illegal concession. He had 3 guys injured, 6 KO'ed, and 1 in the Reserve. I had 4 injured, and one Banned.Anyways, it was lamer after seeing I didn't get the MVP, and cash. Petty? Maybe, but when you run UW in the box you get excited about wins over capable coaches. Its too bad all I got was this lousy T-Shirt.... |
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pythrr
Joined: Mar 07, 2006
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Dec 24, 2015 - 02:27 |
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lammers |
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Mossbeard
Joined: Jul 03, 2005
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Dec 24, 2015 - 03:09 |
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Keggie, are you seriously saying it is illegal to concede even with only one player on the pitch? |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Dec 24, 2015 - 03:13 |
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