ben_awesome
Joined: May 11, 2016
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Mar 04, 2021 - 07:24 |
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Is the piledriver a bonus foul action from the skill or is it your one team turn foul?
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SkittleMosaic
Joined: May 17, 2018
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Mar 04, 2021 - 08:04 |
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I think we need to play it as the latter until we get an errata/faq, which is a shame because it makes the skill useless and is a big deterrence to rolling random Strength skills. |
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sebco
Joined: Feb 14, 2005
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Mar 04, 2021 - 08:11 |
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For me, it is a bonus foul action : in same turn, you can take your foul action with a player then foul again with one player with Pile driver skill (who can be sent off normally if he rolls a double).
That's what means "free foul" in Pile driver skill description, according to me. |
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ben_awesome
Joined: May 11, 2016
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Mar 04, 2021 - 08:22 |
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The above makes sense as you could have multiple players with the skill if rolling randomly and the interpretation above allows multiple use of the skill. |
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ClayInfinity
Joined: Aug 15, 2003
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Mar 04, 2021 - 13:22 |
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I agree... it allows multiple fouls in one turn as long as you're willing to risk the send off. |
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JackassRampant
Joined: Feb 26, 2011
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Mar 04, 2021 - 17:13 |
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I remember goin' round on this and coming up with "it's a bonus foul, doesn't count for your one foul per turn," but I don't remember why that conclusion was reached. |
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MrCushtie
Joined: Aug 10, 2018
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Mar 04, 2021 - 20:00 |
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What's a real shame is that Pile Driver ends that player's action. What would have been hilarious would have been Sneaky Git/Jump Up/Pile Driver synergy - blitz somebody, knock them down, kick them in the teeth and then run away again - but I can dream of that showing up in the 2024 ruleset |
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JackassRampant
Joined: Feb 26, 2011
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Mar 04, 2021 - 20:56 |
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Okay, so Pretty Woman is definitely saving up for Pile Driver. |
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PaddyMick
Joined: Jan 03, 2012
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Mar 04, 2021 - 22:35 |
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If we are counting this as a foul, and I think we should, and it can be taken on multiple players, then is it theoretically possible to do 11 fouls a turn?
Can someone let neilwat know please? he can now more easily break his own record for number of fouls at a one day tournament. |
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garyt1
Joined: Mar 12, 2011
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Mar 05, 2021 - 00:24 |
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Probably only a need for pile driver if you are the rare coach who fouls a lot? Even people with dedicated foulers like JR's above often only fouling once or twice per match. If you don't mind a few folks getting sent off then fill your boots. |
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tussock
Joined: May 29, 2011
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Mar 05, 2021 - 01:54 |
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Best skill on a Deathroller by far. Comes with Jugger, just use a Piledriver blitz every single turn. Boom. Player removal.
Remember folks, 170k secret weapons get sent off anyway, may as well give the ref an excuse. Not like you can cage-break with him any more, so just smash stuff. |
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PaddyMick
Joined: Jan 03, 2012
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Mar 05, 2021 - 15:29 |
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Personally I only foul every other turn, but only because I haven't figured out how to foul in my opponents turn |
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argos_72
Joined: Mar 02, 2007
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May 25, 2021 - 10:18 |
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ben_awesome wrote: | Is the piledriver a bonus foul action from the skill or is it your one team turn foul?
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This has been clarified into the last Designer's Commentary (MAY 2021)
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/3S3PZe9L4TKG5hCE.pdf
Page 4 (at the beginning)
Q: The Pile Driver skill states that the player performing the Block action may then perform a ‘free’ Foul action against the Knocked Down player. Does this ‘free’ Foul action mean that it does not count towards the team’s one Foul action per turn, or does it mean that the player can perform this action for free?(p.80)
A: This means that the player may perform this action for free. This Skill cannot be used if the team has already used their Foul action for that team turn, and if used will mean that another player cannot also make a Foul action during the same team turn. |
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ClayInfinity
Joined: Aug 15, 2003
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May 25, 2021 - 11:21 |
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Whilst I think this is a balanced approach game design wise, I was looking forward to some serious foul records being broken! haha |
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C0ddlefish
Joined: Sep 17, 2019
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May 25, 2021 - 12:06 |
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Does that means you cant do two Piledrivers in the same turn either? |
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