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2012-04-16 14:34:08
25 votes, rating 3.7
25 votes, rating 3.7
Brevik Trial
Like a lot of FUMBBLers right now, I am watching the trial (on Sky News)
He carried out the 'operation' to prevent the ilamisation of Norway on behalf of a group called the Knights Templar.
He executed 77 kids, and now all he wants is an opportunity to promote his sick twisted ideology. Far right 'nazi' style salute when entering the court? Showing his own propoganda video?
What's most tragic here is although I believe in an individuals right to fair trial this seems to be a platform for Breivik to stoke the fires of hate and that there will be (a minority) of people throughout the world that will celebrate his appauling acts and make a martyr out of this monster.
Above all else I can only think of the 77 kids that died, and watching their images slowly scroll on Sky News a few minutes ago was just terrible. I struggle to find the words to express what I think about that frankly. So very sad.
Thankfully 99.99% of the world will look on in horror, dismiss his total bollocks and continue to try and put racial and religious differences behind humanity once and for all.
He carried out the 'operation' to prevent the ilamisation of Norway on behalf of a group called the Knights Templar.
He executed 77 kids, and now all he wants is an opportunity to promote his sick twisted ideology. Far right 'nazi' style salute when entering the court? Showing his own propoganda video?
What's most tragic here is although I believe in an individuals right to fair trial this seems to be a platform for Breivik to stoke the fires of hate and that there will be (a minority) of people throughout the world that will celebrate his appauling acts and make a martyr out of this monster.
Above all else I can only think of the 77 kids that died, and watching their images slowly scroll on Sky News a few minutes ago was just terrible. I struggle to find the words to express what I think about that frankly. So very sad.
Thankfully 99.99% of the world will look on in horror, dismiss his total bollocks and continue to try and put racial and religious differences behind humanity once and for all.
Comments
Posted by koadah on 2012-04-16 14:39:25
I think that you will find that 99.99% is a tad optimistic.
Posted by Calcium on 2012-04-16 14:39:56
My glass is always half full Koadah :)
Posted by BooAhl on 2012-04-16 14:41:16
I agree, why show it on TV. Why zoom in on his face, why does ALL the newspaper sites show his face laughing?
Why give him his 15 minutes again. It is not like society has something to learn.
Why give him his 15 minutes again. It is not like society has something to learn.
Posted by Araznaroth on 2012-04-16 14:43:36
Can remember how the images of the flower march they held, sent cold shivers down my spine. Honestly hope Norway never has to face such dark days again. :(
Posted by maysrill on 2012-04-16 14:44:19
As repulsive as it may be, the ones who glorify it would have anyway. For the rest of the world it is a reminder that these wackos are out there, and the hate and bigotry isn't just idle ranting for some.
I can only hope that some of the race/religion-baiting blowhards out there take a moment to stop and consider the consequences of the philosophy they spew. They may not be guilty in the legal sense, but they are certainly part of the problem.
(I would bet that 90%+ of what that guy "knows" about Islam is propaganda he heard through hate-group media outlets)
I can only hope that some of the race/religion-baiting blowhards out there take a moment to stop and consider the consequences of the philosophy they spew. They may not be guilty in the legal sense, but they are certainly part of the problem.
(I would bet that 90%+ of what that guy "knows" about Islam is propaganda he heard through hate-group media outlets)
Posted by lizvis on 2012-04-16 15:01:27
its being put on television because people who are already watching won't turn it off and people who wouldn't normally watch are tuning in, i.e. a net gain in ratings.
if you're really that disgusted, the solution is quite simple, turn it off
if you're really that disgusted, the solution is quite simple, turn it off
Posted by Beerox on 2012-04-16 17:40:45
Manson got on TV, Dahlmer got on TV. It's just information being made public. Not obscene, just aggravating. Gotta spoon feed the masses something to argue about! Here in the USA we're just arguing about George & Trayvon (and will be for a couple of years).
I think I'll just watch hockey :)
I think I'll just watch hockey :)
Posted by soranos on 2012-04-16 19:21:48
On the one hand, they seem to give Brevik what he wants: publicity and a stage to perform. It is certainly not desired to give him that satisfaction.
But looking at the big picture, I think it is the right thing to do as this trial is not really about Brivak but to prove the wrongness of the arguments he lays out in his "manifest" and which in great part for the heart and soul of the "new right" movement. That is why politicians, political and social scientists and even islamists will speak as attesters in this trail.
I think it is important to disarm some of these prejudices. Otherwise right-wing extremists might use this for their benefits and play the "censorship-card".
I firmly believe that Brevik will be a free man again someday as he is not that old at age 33. Therefore I think it is more important to diffuse the ideas he stands for.
But looking at the big picture, I think it is the right thing to do as this trial is not really about Brivak but to prove the wrongness of the arguments he lays out in his "manifest" and which in great part for the heart and soul of the "new right" movement. That is why politicians, political and social scientists and even islamists will speak as attesters in this trail.
I think it is important to disarm some of these prejudices. Otherwise right-wing extremists might use this for their benefits and play the "censorship-card".
I firmly believe that Brevik will be a free man again someday as he is not that old at age 33. Therefore I think it is more important to diffuse the ideas he stands for.
Posted by pythrr on 2012-04-16 19:22:14
nutter
wish it wasnt on the tv
wish it wasnt on the tv
Posted by SillySod on 2012-04-16 20:40:09
"My glass is always half full Koadah :)"
Sounds like it is 99.99% full :P
Sounds like it is 99.99% full :P
Posted by Mr_Foulscumm on 2012-04-16 23:04:34
My glass is always 0.01% empty :(
Posted by Were_M_Eye on 2012-04-17 02:12:17
I wonder why it has to take so long for trails. He is guilty, no question, just drop him in a hole and let him rot.
Posted by Sp00keh on 2012-04-17 11:07:05
dunno about the legal system in norway, but its probably similar to elsewhere. and its good that there's no such thing as fast-track trials