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2013-07-24 13:50:39
22 votes, rating 4.5
22 votes, rating 4.5
Thoughts on saying congrats when someone scores
Lately, I have played several games in which my opponent has not said congrats after a td. In my opinion it is polite to congratulate someone on a td, even if it was lucky or you are losing, as such, I always make sure I do it. I was told earlier that I did not merit the td that I scored, hence the lack of congratulations, considering he managed several feats of luck to score his and I still said it, this left me quite annoyed. Hence this rant.
Just wondering, what other people's thoughts on saying congrats when your opponent scores a Td are.
Just wondering, what other people's thoughts on saying congrats when your opponent scores a Td are.
Comments
Posted by Bobs on 2013-07-24 13:58:53
Stay on the high ground. Always say grats.
Posted by harvestmouse on 2013-07-24 14:04:43
I use WD instead. I'll always congratulate the first, however if it's a dicing, I'm not sure it's necessary to say it on the TDs after. It all feels a bit hollow and may seem sarcastic.
Posted by Corvidius on 2013-07-24 14:08:55
Always say it. :)
Posted by C3I2 on 2013-07-24 14:11:37
I actually, almost never use that, or any standard phrases that is used every time. Like some abbreviations at start of game.
I might comment on a play after a TD, or talk about the teams at start of a game, but not use standard expressions.
I find that if you ritualistic say something every-time it in reality loses its meaning. So, if I for example tell you, that I´ll rematch you, I mean that; and its also a compliment on your game. Unfortunately its really easy to fall in to standard phrase use both in game and in RL, even for me.
I might comment on a play after a TD, or talk about the teams at start of a game, but not use standard expressions.
I find that if you ritualistic say something every-time it in reality loses its meaning. So, if I for example tell you, that I´ll rematch you, I mean that; and its also a compliment on your game. Unfortunately its really easy to fall in to standard phrase use both in game and in RL, even for me.
Posted by koadah on 2013-07-24 14:11:51
"A harmless courtesy, Your Grace"
"A lie. Take it out."
:D
"A lie. Take it out."
:D
Posted by gjopie on 2013-07-24 14:12:39
I try to always say it, no matter how many they put past me. It is just good sportsmanship.
On very rare occasions, I let my temper get the better of me and I don't congratulate them.
On very rare occasions, I let my temper get the better of me and I don't congratulate them.
Posted by Verminardo on 2013-07-24 14:18:27
I always mean to say it but sometimes I get distracted and forget.
Posted by C3I2 on 2013-07-24 14:31:08
So, if you play physical BB with a friend, do you also say the exact same thing on every TD. Or, do you for example say:, "You got to let me win sometimes!" Or say something completely different?
Posted by Enigma179 on 2013-07-24 14:46:42
Little pet peeve of mine, really minor thing; I love it when opponents say grats or whatever, and I'll say something to that effect every time someone scores on me, but it really bothers me when someone says GG (good going), because GG also means good game, and it always makes me think they've given up or they're about to concede or something and I don't like that...
I personally try to avoid using standard phrases though, like glhf, gratz, and gg with NOTHING ELSE, but that's a personal thing and I get people who do that.
I personally try to avoid using standard phrases though, like glhf, gratz, and gg with NOTHING ELSE, but that's a personal thing and I get people who do that.
Posted by King_Ghidra on 2013-07-24 14:48:18
I'm with C3.
When I see "Hi, gl hf" at the start of a match, almost as though it was cut and paste from some text file, my heart sinks.
then no talk
then "gz" after a TD.
That is not communication, that is not polite, that is not being a good sport, nor anything like it. Perfunctorily issuing abbreviations like some chatbot makes you no better than one in my eyes.
If you want to talk, talk. Say something when something interesting happens. Show something about yourself, your personality or your feelings about the game. Equally, if you don't want to talk, fine. But for God's sake, don't trot out that inhuman online jargon and expect me to react like you're the salt of the earth.
When I see "Hi, gl hf" at the start of a match, almost as though it was cut and paste from some text file, my heart sinks.
then no talk
then "gz" after a TD.
That is not communication, that is not polite, that is not being a good sport, nor anything like it. Perfunctorily issuing abbreviations like some chatbot makes you no better than one in my eyes.
If you want to talk, talk. Say something when something interesting happens. Show something about yourself, your personality or your feelings about the game. Equally, if you don't want to talk, fine. But for God's sake, don't trot out that inhuman online jargon and expect me to react like you're the salt of the earth.
Posted by CW on 2013-07-24 14:51:40
I generally say it simply because it seems to be the standard thing to do here on fumbbl. Kind of a "when in Rome" kind of thing. But, in my heart I feel the same as C312. It doesn't really mean much from a sportsmanship standpoint if you are just doing it because you have to. So, honestly it doesn't bother me one way or another if someone else does it or doesn't do it.
The thing that is more troubling to me is that the OP apparently had the chutzpah to ask the opponent why he didn't get a congratulations. I wouldn't appreciate that at all.
The thing that is more troubling to me is that the OP apparently had the chutzpah to ask the opponent why he didn't get a congratulations. I wouldn't appreciate that at all.
Posted by FatEddie on 2013-07-24 14:59:13
When I said congrats, I mean some form of congratulations, can be as personal as you want. I always make sure I talk during a game as well, so its not just gl and hf and congrats everytime.
Posted by Verminardo on 2013-07-24 15:02:00
You can hardly expect coaches who have played hundreds or even thousands of games to come up with a new way to say "have fun" every time. ;-)
I like a fun chat with my opponent but I prefer the "gl hf gz gg" sort to the whiners.
I like a fun chat with my opponent but I prefer the "gl hf gz gg" sort to the whiners.
Posted by Narlgoth on 2013-07-24 15:04:18
I agree with C312 and King_Ghidra.
Sorry but I don't say it if I don't mean it. You might get a 'nice!' or a 'that worked out well for you' after a touchdown but not just 'gratz'.
I personally feel that 'gg', 'gl hf' and 'gratz' are lazy and very rarely given with any meaning. Instead its just done because its seen as the thing to do on here.
I'm all for saying it was a good game if it generally was fun, exciting and could have gone either way regardless of the outcome, but I see people putting it after they've diced someone or the opposing team is slaughtered- if both players didn't enjoy it then it debatably isn't a good game and you won't hear me saying so.
Sorry but I don't say it if I don't mean it. You might get a 'nice!' or a 'that worked out well for you' after a touchdown but not just 'gratz'.
I personally feel that 'gg', 'gl hf' and 'gratz' are lazy and very rarely given with any meaning. Instead its just done because its seen as the thing to do on here.
I'm all for saying it was a good game if it generally was fun, exciting and could have gone either way regardless of the outcome, but I see people putting it after they've diced someone or the opposing team is slaughtered- if both players didn't enjoy it then it debatably isn't a good game and you won't hear me saying so.
Posted by licker on 2013-07-24 15:05:35
"That is not communication, that is not polite, that is not being a good sport, nor anything like it"
So says you.
I think may others would disagree with your assessment. I'm not sure why it would even bother you, if the person is indeed not going to chat, but at least is going to go through the motions that means less than if they just don't type out a single thing through the entire match?
It's funny to me, the people who are against the 'norm'. Do you not say 'hello' (or whatever you say wherever you're from) to your colleges? Are not the members of FUMBBL colleges? Some might go as far as to say family. Do you not address your distant cousins? Do you just ignore every and all 'norms of society'?
Look, you can think it's meaningless if you want, to you apparently it is. That doesn't mean it's meaningless to the rest of the community though, and frankly, those who rage against this stuff are more annoying to me than those whom I figure don't even mean it. At least the later parties are considerate enough to think that it may mean something to the other party and bother with it.
When a game starts do you have to come up with something original to say? Or do you just wait for the other guy to type something? It's kind of ridiculous honestly.
So says you.
I think may others would disagree with your assessment. I'm not sure why it would even bother you, if the person is indeed not going to chat, but at least is going to go through the motions that means less than if they just don't type out a single thing through the entire match?
It's funny to me, the people who are against the 'norm'. Do you not say 'hello' (or whatever you say wherever you're from) to your colleges? Are not the members of FUMBBL colleges? Some might go as far as to say family. Do you not address your distant cousins? Do you just ignore every and all 'norms of society'?
Look, you can think it's meaningless if you want, to you apparently it is. That doesn't mean it's meaningless to the rest of the community though, and frankly, those who rage against this stuff are more annoying to me than those whom I figure don't even mean it. At least the later parties are considerate enough to think that it may mean something to the other party and bother with it.
When a game starts do you have to come up with something original to say? Or do you just wait for the other guy to type something? It's kind of ridiculous honestly.
Posted by Overhamsteren on 2013-07-24 15:14:43
I say 'hi gl & hf :)' 'grats' 'gg' 'thanks for the game' and so on and like it when my opponent does the same, it just feels right. That said it's not a major thing for me and if you say nothing else at all but those phrases it is true that it's almost the same as not saying anything at all. Still I feel it's a positive thing to do.
As for saying grats, if I am getting diced, 2 touchdowns behind and the game seems to be decided I will probably say grats and add some comment about how much my team sucks or how awesome the other team is as appropriate. :)
As for saying grats, if I am getting diced, 2 touchdowns behind and the game seems to be decided I will probably say grats and add some comment about how much my team sucks or how awesome the other team is as appropriate. :)
Posted by mister__joshua on 2013-07-24 15:16:25
I'm always reluctant to say it after a long stall. It feels weird, like 'well done moving that guy 1 Square to score the td you could have scored 4 turns ago'. I still always do though :)
Posted by Winni on 2013-07-24 15:22:08
When my opponent scores, i start calling him the worst of names and disconnect. I then go on to destroy my computer, burn down my house and declare war on the world.
Posted by FatEddie on 2013-07-24 15:36:27
I have the Chutzpah CW because where I come from politeness is important, especially when I myself have been massively diced many times and still said congrats (and meant it). If someones complains constantly and still wins, I have no problem with calling them up on the fact that they acted childishly and highlighting that it is good manners to say congrats at least. Probably because I'm a teacher I guess, but I feel that manners are important. I probably wanted to goad him as well as he was whining constantly even though he was doing well himself.
Posted by King_Ghidra on 2013-07-24 15:41:35
@licker
"I'm not sure why it would even bother you, if the person is indeed not going to chat, but at least is going to go through the motions that means less than if they just don't type out a single thing through the entire match?"
"Look, you can think it's meaningless if you want, to you apparently it is. That doesn't mean it's meaningless to the rest of the community though, and frankly, those who rage against this stuff are more annoying to me than those whom I figure don't even mean it. At least the later parties are considerate enough to think that it may mean something to the other party and bother with it."
Because it's disingenuous. 'Going through the motions' absolutely implies that. 'Going through the motions ' means they do not actually mean their congratulations. And when someone else is 'going through the motions' I'm certainly not happy to receive their feigned congratulations. I would rather hear nothing than some cheaply tossed-out stock phrase that was completely insincere.
In the idea world I would rather have a good chat with an interesting opponent who can discuss the general game in a good spirit, but in lieu of that, I have no problems with silence if the alternative is the grudging minimum of politeness that someone believes internet gaming protocol requires. I enjoy the game on its own merits, not because someone does or doesn't make a couple of platitudes in chat.
"I'm not sure why it would even bother you, if the person is indeed not going to chat, but at least is going to go through the motions that means less than if they just don't type out a single thing through the entire match?"
"Look, you can think it's meaningless if you want, to you apparently it is. That doesn't mean it's meaningless to the rest of the community though, and frankly, those who rage against this stuff are more annoying to me than those whom I figure don't even mean it. At least the later parties are considerate enough to think that it may mean something to the other party and bother with it."
Because it's disingenuous. 'Going through the motions' absolutely implies that. 'Going through the motions ' means they do not actually mean their congratulations. And when someone else is 'going through the motions' I'm certainly not happy to receive their feigned congratulations. I would rather hear nothing than some cheaply tossed-out stock phrase that was completely insincere.
In the idea world I would rather have a good chat with an interesting opponent who can discuss the general game in a good spirit, but in lieu of that, I have no problems with silence if the alternative is the grudging minimum of politeness that someone believes internet gaming protocol requires. I enjoy the game on its own merits, not because someone does or doesn't make a couple of platitudes in chat.
Posted by koadah on 2013-07-24 15:56:40
@King_Ghidra
So, if I draw you should I not bother to say "Hi" either?
I suppose I could just wait in silence and just follow your lead. But if everyone did that no one would be saying anything.
So, if I draw you should I not bother to say "Hi" either?
I suppose I could just wait in silence and just follow your lead. But if everyone did that no one would be saying anything.
Posted by licker on 2013-07-24 15:58:55
That's not really my point though.
How do you know the person is disingenuous or insincere?
Do you ask them?
But in any case, you are certainly free to dislike the convention, there are certainly other conventions around here I dislike. My take was that you were making a bit more of an implication than you may have realized. That being, that anyone who uses the abbreviated vernacular is guilty of being disingenuous.
Clearly in cases where all you get is 'two characters, two characters, two characters' you may be more likely to be correct. However, as has been done to death in other places, there is the language barrier. Some non english speakers may realize enough to type out the basics in lieu of actually trying to communicate more fully. Some english speakers (myself included) may start out that way because as others noted, there's only so many ways to say 'hello, how are you, I hope this is an entertaining match for both of us'.
I do tend to comment on 'important' events in a match, whether they are a string of bad (or good) rolls, an important CAS, or indeed, a TD. Even if the TD wasn't 'deserved' (which is so insulting if you think about it, it's really showing people who think that way to be utter whiners). You acknowledge the event(s). If you do it short hand, at least it's an acknowledgement of a shared experience, no matter how it's perceived by either side.
I'm sure we've all had matches against whiners who belittle you after a 'lucky' score. Is that better than someone just sighing at their computer and typing out 'gz'? Is silence really better?
Of course that all depends, one may be better for one than for another, but don't make the assumption, or indeed the statement that:
"That is not communication, that is not polite, that is not being a good sport, nor anything like it"
Because it is certainly communication, and to the rest, you have no idea what the intention behind it is.
How do you know the person is disingenuous or insincere?
Do you ask them?
But in any case, you are certainly free to dislike the convention, there are certainly other conventions around here I dislike. My take was that you were making a bit more of an implication than you may have realized. That being, that anyone who uses the abbreviated vernacular is guilty of being disingenuous.
Clearly in cases where all you get is 'two characters, two characters, two characters' you may be more likely to be correct. However, as has been done to death in other places, there is the language barrier. Some non english speakers may realize enough to type out the basics in lieu of actually trying to communicate more fully. Some english speakers (myself included) may start out that way because as others noted, there's only so many ways to say 'hello, how are you, I hope this is an entertaining match for both of us'.
I do tend to comment on 'important' events in a match, whether they are a string of bad (or good) rolls, an important CAS, or indeed, a TD. Even if the TD wasn't 'deserved' (which is so insulting if you think about it, it's really showing people who think that way to be utter whiners). You acknowledge the event(s). If you do it short hand, at least it's an acknowledgement of a shared experience, no matter how it's perceived by either side.
I'm sure we've all had matches against whiners who belittle you after a 'lucky' score. Is that better than someone just sighing at their computer and typing out 'gz'? Is silence really better?
Of course that all depends, one may be better for one than for another, but don't make the assumption, or indeed the statement that:
"That is not communication, that is not polite, that is not being a good sport, nor anything like it"
Because it is certainly communication, and to the rest, you have no idea what the intention behind it is.
Posted by koadah on 2013-07-24 16:29:54
it's communication?
Not saying it is communication too. ;)
Not saying it is communication too. ;)
Posted by OTS on 2013-07-24 16:32:03
I'm amazed how sensitive you all are. I don't care if the person doesn't say grants or tells me that was the luckiest series of moves in the history of fumbbl and I'm a lucker of the worst sort.
Though I prefer a good chat. I don't get offended if the person isn't gushingly polite. There's a lot of people on here who have much different cultures and expectations than I do.
Though I prefer a good chat. I don't get offended if the person isn't gushingly polite. There's a lot of people on here who have much different cultures and expectations than I do.
Posted by JimmyFantastic on 2013-07-24 16:34:52
I always type gz or grats. Just cos other ppl do. Occasionally I will type nice one or wp when i actually mean it.
Posted by OTS on 2013-07-24 16:39:06
Ive decided to start each match with: good morning. I hope I dice the shit out of you! Praise be to Allah.
Posted by PainState on 2013-07-24 16:50:13
After I go down 3 -0 because the dicing is in full effect.
You do not get a gratz from me on the score...in fact I expect a sorry from you for dicing me and making me sit there for an hour whille I watch you play.
:}
You do not get a gratz from me on the score...in fact I expect a sorry from you for dicing me and making me sit there for an hour whille I watch you play.
:}
Posted by Royston on 2013-07-24 16:52:13
Even after the fifth TD has been scored against me, I still type some sort of congratulatory phrase, most usually "nice TD".
Even if the touchdown relied on the luckiest of lucks in the world I still think that is worth congratulating. Thinking about it, I think they are more worthy, as they've been scored with the biggest amount of risk taking.
Even if the touchdown relied on the luckiest of lucks in the world I still think that is worth congratulating. Thinking about it, I think they are more worthy, as they've been scored with the biggest amount of risk taking.
Posted by gjopie on 2013-07-24 17:23:42
I'm enjoying the cultural differences on this thread between the UK and US coaches. We just need to swap King_Ghidra for Licker ;)
Posted by GAZZATROT on 2013-07-24 17:37:23
I tend to cover all bases when conceding a TD:
1. I swear, lots of fun finding rude variants and shows I'm human and do care.
2. I say well done to show that despite my maniacal cursing I have an ounce of sportsmanship.
Example:
You ****** ****, well done.
1. I swear, lots of fun finding rude variants and shows I'm human and do care.
2. I say well done to show that despite my maniacal cursing I have an ounce of sportsmanship.
Example:
You ****** ****, well done.
Posted by Dan-Da-Man on 2013-07-24 17:41:20
if my opponent is silent all game and better dice it gives me the impression there gloating and being smug so i dont do it.
Posted by shusaku on 2013-07-24 17:52:25
if the other Person does not say grats, I feel he is angry or somthing. And that takes me down a little.
On the other hand, I enjoy whining cursing opponents a lot.
Total silence I normally consider as inability to chat so I am not bothered. But Hello and then nothing else I get an uncomfortable feeling. So if you Play me:
best Option: interesting Statements (I am not very communicative myself so that is hard)
second best option: whine and curse
third best Option: go through the motions
4th: silence
5th: hello and then silence
On the other hand, I enjoy whining cursing opponents a lot.
Total silence I normally consider as inability to chat so I am not bothered. But Hello and then nothing else I get an uncomfortable feeling. So if you Play me:
best Option: interesting Statements (I am not very communicative myself so that is hard)
second best option: whine and curse
third best Option: go through the motions
4th: silence
5th: hello and then silence
Posted by keggiemckill on 2013-07-24 18:01:22
They great and all fun-powerful PST time players always say grats after TDs. When this game becomes unsocial, it becomes Solitaire.
My opinion? When in doubt, break the bible out. Like it says in verse 11, subsection C, do fun unto others the way you would have others fun onto you?
My opinion? When in doubt, break the bible out. Like it says in verse 11, subsection C, do fun unto others the way you would have others fun onto you?
Posted by Retro21 on 2013-07-24 18:28:58
I always say it. Through gritted teeth sometimes, sure. But it's just not cricket to not congratulate your opponent.
Posted by koadah on 2013-07-24 18:45:38
Keggie:"do fun unto others the way you would have others fun onto you?"
That is certain to upset people. :D
That is certain to upset people. :D
Posted by PigStar-69 on 2013-07-24 18:47:27
hmmm tricky one this for me. I like to say grats when a td is earned by solid play or even when a coach has used some daring moves. the only times I feel begrudged to say grats are when its an uncompetitive game via dice. or if the other coach has stayed silent all game.
Posted by Severedunit on 2013-07-24 18:55:34
“A truly compassionate attitude toward others does not change even if they behave negatively or hurt you.” ― Dalai Lama
“Only the development of compassion and understanding for others can bring us the tranquility and happiness we all seek.” ― Dalai Lama
“Silence is sometimes the best answer” ― Dalai Lama
We should never add meaning to silence. Silence is simply silence - Me
“Only the development of compassion and understanding for others can bring us the tranquility and happiness we all seek.” ― Dalai Lama
“Silence is sometimes the best answer” ― Dalai Lama
We should never add meaning to silence. Silence is simply silence - Me
Posted by OTS on 2013-07-24 19:41:35
The Dalia Lama is just trolling
Posted by licker on 2013-07-24 19:46:19
"I'm enjoying the cultural differences on this thread between the UK and US coaches. We just need to swap King_Ghidra for Licker ;)"
Wait... Which side am I on now???
Wait... Which side am I on now???
Posted by Badoek on 2013-07-24 19:57:50
halfway through the comments it became TL;DR
I like the formalities although it doesn't have to be gl & hf, anything past "hi" isn't missed on my part. I usually say "gl, hf and please be gentle" when playing a team that easily breaks (and sometimes with my orcs too hehe).
TD = grats! and sometimes with explanation. Sometimes I totally forget to congratulate though, but not often. I hope chatting makes up for that though.
I like the formalities although it doesn't have to be gl & hf, anything past "hi" isn't missed on my part. I usually say "gl, hf and please be gentle" when playing a team that easily breaks (and sometimes with my orcs too hehe).
TD = grats! and sometimes with explanation. Sometimes I totally forget to congratulate though, but not often. I hope chatting makes up for that though.
Posted by maysrill on 2013-07-24 19:57:52
I'm kinda surprised this managed to dredge up a little controversy.
Posted by Cloggy on 2013-07-24 20:21:41
Wow, quite a scroll. Sorry for all those who botherd to write their thoughts, but I didn't read them.
Just wanted to compliment one of my favorite opponents on making the effort to keep Fumbbl on the bright side of antisocial.
Just wanted to compliment one of my favorite opponents on making the effort to keep Fumbbl on the bright side of antisocial.
Posted by Endzone on 2013-07-24 20:57:11
Be polite and courteous. If your opponent isn't don't read too much into it - maybe they're having a bad day. If your opponent takes offence from your courtesy (really?) make allowance for their doubting.
Posted by uzkulak on 2013-07-24 21:15:07
ALways say it, its polite - did yovr mother teach yov nothing?
And besides its good sportsmanship to acknowledge a score from yovr opponent regardless of any circvmstances or lvck. Sometimes its hard and my fingers stick to the keys when I type it after some lamer jvst trashed my team for no good reason and was playing against three prone players for the last 5 tvrns, bvt I still type it.
Thats the whole point of conventions - it allows vs to retain a society even in difficvlt times.
And besides its good sportsmanship to acknowledge a score from yovr opponent regardless of any circvmstances or lvck. Sometimes its hard and my fingers stick to the keys when I type it after some lamer jvst trashed my team for no good reason and was playing against three prone players for the last 5 tvrns, bvt I still type it.
Thats the whole point of conventions - it allows vs to retain a society even in difficvlt times.
Posted by PaddyMick on 2013-07-25 03:25:03
It's just politeness and good sportsmanship.
What do you say when you kill someone is a more interesting question. I usually go with:
!
Just to acknowledge the death without apologising. Since I've been playing Team Fantastic I sometimes go with:
Woooooooooooooo
If I know the other coach is cool.
But I never, ever apologise, obvs.
What do you say when you kill someone is a more interesting question. I usually go with:
!
Just to acknowledge the death without apologising. Since I've been playing Team Fantastic I sometimes go with:
Woooooooooooooo
If I know the other coach is cool.
But I never, ever apologise, obvs.
Posted by pythrr on 2013-07-25 03:28:27
always
even if they are a dick
even if they are a dick
Posted by fidius on 2013-07-25 05:47:56
I'd prefer polite gratz after scores but don't worry about it too much. What mainly gets me is veteran coaches moaning that the only reason they're losing is because of the dice. Whether it is true or not, it is total disrespect, as well as arrogant and juvenile. "I can't believe I'm losing to this guy" is OK to think to yourself, but expressing it is the height of rudeness imo.
Having said that, I like to think that taking the initiative to being chatty and courteous disarms people, and helps keep them from embarrassing themselves in this way.
Having said that, I like to think that taking the initiative to being chatty and courteous disarms people, and helps keep them from embarrassing themselves in this way.
Posted by the_Sage on 2013-07-25 10:28:52
C3I2, I'm pretty sure you're an educated man, and you might even be a smart one. At the risk of sounding horribly pedantic: I think your perspective on this issue is that of someone who has thought too much about the greeting/congratulating process to act mindlessly, but not enough to act wisely. As a psychologist (well, a cognitive neuroscientist working in psychology) I suppose I do have some insight into this process. I was going to post a reply, but then it got to be so much longer than the OP, I figured it should be on my own blog instead of spamming Eddie's. =)
Posted by Shraaaag on 2013-07-25 13:08:25
What's the difference between greeting your opponent, congratulating on a TD or a game completed any different from things like 'hi', 'how are you', 'please', 'thanks', 'see/talk to you later' and 'goodbye' IRL?
Your opponent is still a person, you are not playing against the computer.
Your opponent is still a person, you are not playing against the computer.
Posted by C3I2 on 2013-07-25 21:38:42
Well, we all use standard responses (some of us a lot less then others), but in a RL game I got more to work with, I know more about my opponent and I get better feedback on what I´m talking about. So its a lot easier to have a real conversation there.
Using standard expressions is a bit like "always" going to McDonalds and "Always" selecting Big Mac with fries and a coke. You just don't spend any cerebral effort at making your choice or trying to chat.
Using standard expressions is a bit like "always" going to McDonalds and "Always" selecting Big Mac with fries and a coke. You just don't spend any cerebral effort at making your choice or trying to chat.
Posted by the_Sage on 2013-07-25 22:24:22
C3I2, that only holds if
hi, gl n hf
u2
gz
gz
gg
gg
is ALL of your chat log.
If there's 78 lines of cheerful banter in between, the norm phrases are just as comfortable as saying 'hey man, let's have a good game. You want a beer before we set up?' over a tabletop match.
That way, it's more like saying 'hi' to either the teller at the McDonalds, the server in the bistro, or the wife with the homecooked meal. It's standard, and it's not content, but it is normal and expected.
hi, gl n hf
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gg
gg
is ALL of your chat log.
If there's 78 lines of cheerful banter in between, the norm phrases are just as comfortable as saying 'hey man, let's have a good game. You want a beer before we set up?' over a tabletop match.
That way, it's more like saying 'hi' to either the teller at the McDonalds, the server in the bistro, or the wife with the homecooked meal. It's standard, and it's not content, but it is normal and expected.
Posted by garyt1 on 2013-07-26 00:51:21
Always say gratz at least, though some actual banter or pleasant sentences during the match is great.