Posted by happygrue on 2015-03-30 23:01:59

Fun stuff! It's a lot more work, but you'd also get a much bigger sample including, say top 4 races (all who made it to a semi). That would be fun to see in this format too.

Posted by Brainsaw on 2015-03-30 23:21:54

I thought about it!
IMHO its not really relevant as the resulting winning races do count!
No matter how many races did enter the tourneys or how many of those reached the semi or final Stage.
If most coaches feel they must throw in a ClawPOMB Team, than the shown results do express that as well!
Or vice versa, if the current ruleset discourages Coaches from Entering other Races, then this is expressed in the above diagram as well!

Posted by Leilond on 2015-03-30 23:38:47

This damn elf pickers!

Posted by JimmyFantastic on 2015-03-30 23:43:51

CPOMB = Nurgz, Chaos & CDs. If anything Skaven should count as Elfs.
Awful agenda pushing spoils a great table.
For anyone interested here are the stats including losing finalists -

Total in CRP
Skaven 4-4
Chaos 3-4
Nurgz 6-0
Dwarf 5-1
CD 4-2
Orc 4-2
DE 2-3
WE 3-0
Necro 2-1
Lizards 0-3
HE 0-3
Pro Elf 1-1
Khemri 0-2
Pact 0-2
Undead 0-2
Amazon 0-2
Vamps 0-1

Posted by Brainsaw on 2015-03-30 23:52:43

I counted in ALL Races who have access to ClawPOMB.
I would see absolutely no reason to make any excpetions to this.
Especially with one ClawPOMB Player being able to win games alone!

Posted by Brainsaw on 2015-03-31 00:17:24

and btw Necros won two Majors now. I am not sure it was just due to their picking skill ,-)))

Posted by Kam on 2015-03-31 00:23:21

Those stats are completely meaningless. You would have to compare them to the number of participant for each race. If 50% of the participants enter cPOMB teams, it's no surprise 50% of the winners are cPOMBers...

Posted by PainState on 2015-03-31 00:41:08

Well if we take away the Elf team who had the most awesome run of luck ever witnessed in the history of FUMBBL when they won a Box major.

We are left with, in essence, 9 teams out of 24 in CRP that compete for majors.

If you look at CRP and take away the insane Ogre run in the box and discount the Zon win in the first major on FUMBBL you had 9 races out of 22 able to win majors in LRB4.


What interests me is that NURGLE and NECRO could not sniff a major final 4 appearance under LRB4 now have 8 major victories under CRP.

Posted by C3I2 on 2015-03-31 01:14:21

To win a tournament you need to be able to play and win 5-6 games in a row, elfs often win games, where they win the battle and lose the war; as they really cant win the next game. Hence why Dwarfs do so well, in the current major.

Lizards have the issue of MNGs on their few Sauri for example = loss, and high CAS during the game on skinks.

With the current ruleset, cheap linemen and Regeneration have a even higher premium then before, and obviously any skill that combines with mb/po is nice to have. This means that a carefully built Nurgle team is better then a Chaos one for example. Need I say more?

Posted by Wizfall on 2015-03-31 09:32:12

More stats are always good.
Like 90% of games on Fumbbl are played in a "free mod" (B or R) and at different TV, the dynamic/respective power of each race is totally different (lizards/undead).
I guess even L is much different.

Posted by gamelsetlmatch on 2015-03-31 14:37:53

All of these tournies and stats and groups and divisions and teams and, and, and..

..play second fiddle to what is Actually important in this game.

Have FUN!!

Some coaches don't play the 'powerful' teams or builds because it takes away from their fun, some go stunty, some go all lino's

Thanks for the stats Brainsaw!! (Stats are fun for me)

Mostly though, I am thankful for this community being as diverse as it is.

Posted by Brainsaw on 2015-03-31 15:07:04

Have a look here and fiddle with the Columns and Sort Criteria to gain some more insights:
http://www.cmanu.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bb/stats/stats2.html

Posted by C3I2 on 2015-03-31 18:34:15

I get a warning on that site.

Posted by BattleLore on 2015-03-31 19:14:04

Nurgles Pestigors and Necros wolfs didn't have regen on LRB 4. Without an apo, they tend to die a lot.