Posted by koadah on 2008-10-03 13:14:38
It's not just you. It still surprises me that it annoys so many people though.
If someone says that "they are sorry hear that your dog died" it doesn't necessarily mean that they poisoned your dog and are taking the piss out of you.
They may just realise that some people may be upset about it and they are extending a little sympathy. Of course some people don't give a crap about dogs and would be happy that they can now spend the dog food money on beer.
Some coaches like a friendly environment and play as if they were playing against their friends. Some prefer to to play as if they were playing against a computer.
Personally I prefer the friendly approach.
In a one off game a BH is as good as a kill so many coaches would want to cripple your team unnecessarily.
Posted by Junior84 on 2008-10-03 13:50:06
i am happy when i kill someone a player, and write it down some times like yeaahh the ... is dead cheer. i mean why not thats bloodbowl not softtouchgirliebowl.
people who cry abozut that are pixel hugers bah =)
Posted by nin on 2008-10-03 13:52:25
In game chat makes it more fun for me.
Writing "Great, I killed the *****! Mwahaha!" could be missundertood by some people.
So I usually go with a more neutral "Ouch".
On the other hand, BH is nearly as good as RIP in one off games (sound of RIP is better though), and I know how expensive are elves, so sometimes I get sentimental if I'm destroying a team (accidentally of course, I just tripped on those players with foul missclicked)... but of late I don't go "sorry", it's more a coment like "tough game for your team". No ofense meant.
If someone writes "sorry" to me, I just explain that there is no need for that (while I prepare mishelf to avenge my dead pixels).
Posted by Rijssiej on 2008-10-03 14:10:19
sorry, I voted 1
Posted by G_Force on 2008-10-03 14:25:04
sometimes i am sorry like when i play a buddy or a league "friendly" but you can;t help the cas dice and if a block get sa RIP then nice sound and all but i'm sorry for the extreme result.
sometimes i am not sorry, like http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=match&id=2363188" this game I was actually quite pleased about the RIP and the T16 foul was most deliberate. I was only sorry that it was an unskilled ogre who took the boot. I was just to lazy to make a song and dance about it through the chat but i was celebrating inside \o/
:( stupid comments pages, html links don't work in either format
Posted by rostern on 2008-10-03 16:23:54
I lie allways when i say sorry
Posted by Azor on 2008-10-03 16:24:01
Some players become hostile when they read "sorry" after a player's death... others become hostile when they don't read "sorry"... Actually, I find the both are boring.
For my part, when I say I'm sorry, it's that seeing the dead player, I feel his loss could be annoying for his owner...
As this is only a game, I tend to be friendly and use my few empathy abilities, then often say "sorry for you".
Posted by Aargh on 2008-10-03 16:51:47
I usually say something along the line of "Ouch!" whenever I kill/SI an opponent player (though in friendly games or a particularly heated match I might be a bit more vocal about it =P ). I don't really feel the need to say "Sorry", simply because I'm NOT sorry at all. Ever. Sure, it's no fun losing a player, but that's just part of the game. Don't play Bloodbowl if you can't stand losing players.
However, I find it even more pointless to get upset by "Sorry", or the lack thereof. Why would anyone care if I do or don't say sorry? Either someone is being polite and says sorry, or someone's being honest and doesn't say sorry. It's a bit silly to get worked up over it either way.
A while ago I played against a player (won't mention any names) who got very upset ingame because I killed a player and didn't apologise for it. That's retarded. But IMO it's just as retarded to take offense when someone DOES say sorry, even if you know he's lying; after all, he's probably just trying to be polite, and there's no need to discourage that...
Posted by Aargh on 2008-10-03 16:55:56
Addendum to my last post: I lied.
I sometimes DO say sorry. When I totally destroy a team -which isn't often, because I don't go out to destroy teams, but to win games... which sometimes unfortunately is almost the same thing- I do sometimes say something like "I'm sorry about the bloodbath". Because in those cases, things turned out way worse than I wanted, as destroying a team is never my intention.
Still, the rest of my comment stands...
Posted by ibambe on 2008-10-03 17:08:05
Haha. Your player is DEAD! :)
Posted by pythrr on 2008-10-03 18:55:51
To Junior84 and his "hard-assed" attitude voiced in a comment below:
Cry baby #2
Select an action for Ex-Wife
(3) Go for it successful.
DODGE BEFORE RE_ROLL: Ex-Wife knocked over trying to dodge.
TARGET: 4 --- ROLL: 2 + 0 = 2
Reroll using DODGE.
DODGE FINAL RESULT: Ex-Wife
TARGET: 4 --- ROLL: 1 + 0 = 1
Ex-Wife is knocked over.
(3, 2) + 0, (0, 0) + 0, 0: Ex-Wife has been knocked prone.
Doomed Delfs turn ended.
Eaters of the Deadites start TURN: 2
[CTRL][ENTER] to end turn.
Or click the turn counter.
<pythrr> man, i just goota foul that witch
<Junior84> how mean are u
<Junior84> u have luck enough
<pythrr> its a prone killer witch elf
Select an action for con fritos
con fritos fouls Ex-Wife. (2, 6) +4
DIRTY PLAYER skill used on injury roll.
(5, 5) + 2, 5: Ex-Wife has been seriously injured!!
(64) Broken Neck - (-1 AG)
IGMEOY Roll = 4
Move ended for con fritos
Waiting for opponent to decide to use apothecary.
(6) Apothecary SUCCEEDS!
<Junior84> what for .. a are u
<Junior84> come on
Move ended for Yes Chef!
<pythrr> damn, the doc worked
<pythrr> i wanted to bh it - out for the game
<Junior84> search for other enemys u asshole
Doomed Delfs concedes the match.
Posted by Synn on 2008-10-03 19:40:06
This is where i simply go \o/
I want to cause cas. I have no control over what type of cas it is.
Posted by MonkeyMan576 on 2008-10-03 20:09:56
I think people are misinterpreting what I said.
I don't get upset when people say sorry. I'm not going to make a big deal about it. I just find it annoying, is all.
Posted by catmando on 2008-10-07 18:41:49
Some people are just trying to be nice when they say sorry on a kill or SI result, that's all. It just means that some are not as happy about destroying your team during the course of a win as others might be.
Posted by Zombie69 on 2008-11-23 06:52:26
Some say sorry to be polite; some say sorry because they really are sorry. And yes, that can apply even for CAS caused through fouls. Personally, every block and every foul i make, i'm hoping for badly hurt. It helps me win the game and doesn't make the game any less fun for the other coach. Also, there's less chance of the opponent using the apo if it's only a badly hurt, which means more chance of the player not returning for the rest of the game.
It sucks to get one of your players killed. Knowing that, anyone with a decent level of empathy will know how his opponent feels when it happens to him, and feel sorry for it.
One thing i don't like about Fumbbl is that there are too many kids here. On tabletop, i've never played against someone who was younger than 18 years old, and i wouldn't want to either. Kids naturally have less empathy than adults, and are just generally less fun to play against. They also tend to put too much value on winning, and not enough on having fun, and more to the point in making sure that the other coach has fun as well, which i believe is a crucial component in what is after all a social game.
Another negative point here is the part of the crowd who see this as an online computer game, rather than as a social board game. Those people tend to be less chatty, and generally just less fun to play against. gl hf gg cu, that's not chat, and that's not fun. The most fun games you'll play have little to do with what actually happens on the field, and more to do with the conversation that you're having. It's just too bad that so many people don't realize that.
So yeah, to get back to the point. When someone says he's sorry, maybe he actually is. Just because you don't feel sorry when you kill a player, doesn't mean everybody feels the same way. So when someone says sorry, take it for what it is, or at least give your opponent the benefit of the doubt. And don't berate him for being a good guy.
That's it, rant over. Game on, chat away, and most importantly, do your best to ensure that your opponent is having fun as well. Those are the best games.