Posted by Ehlers on 2011-05-23 13:29:06
Good call and I can understand your view better now
Keep up the good work
Posted by James_Probert on 2011-05-23 13:29:15
I presume you mean pastel in the opening sentence.
Posted by Adar on 2011-05-23 13:30:52
The changes will take some effort to get used to but I am always fascinated by how it aggravates people.
I do however agree with the people who got trouble with the colors. It is something about the reddish-grey that makes it tiring to look at, especially when mixed with the red top bar.
I would prefer it if we had a green top bar (matching the fillers for the fixed width), red replacing the white bar below and then a greyish-green shade instead of the greyish-red as the main background.
Posted by Mr_Foulscumm on 2011-05-23 13:36:57
I actually like it.
Posted by maysrill on 2011-05-23 13:41:51
Honestly, I like the new theme. My only real complaint is that it lacks the work-friendly "not obviously a game site" look of the old style ;)
My wife works in web development, so I get the frustration with multi-browser support. If FUMBBL ever totally doesn't work on IE6, I will be in full support (IE6...Satan's tool to torment developers).
I love that Android is being supported, which will be great for FUMBBL while I'm on the road. If we ever get Kalimar to the point of making a FFB client for Android (just speccing is fine, too much hassle to play on a tiny screen), I'll be ecstatic.
Posted by pythrr on 2011-05-23 13:45:16
i like the new format very much
great work sir!
Posted by Garion on 2011-05-23 13:50:59
@ adar, what white bar at the bottom?
I love the new theme, I think its a lot better. A few links are still missing at the moment but they have been fed back in the thread and will no doubt be added at a later date. I just look forward to seeing it complete. It has also made the Help guides far better as the columns have been made wider.
I also like the green on the side and the red on top. My only criticism with the main page is the colour is quite flat. If there was a little more distinction between all the windows. It might make things look a little better.
Posted by Christer on 2011-05-23 13:55:47
Corrected the first sentence.
As for browser versions, I support the following:
IE7 and higher
Firefox 3.6 and higher
Chrome (current version, it auto-updates anyway)
For iOS, I will only actively support the latest version (4.3.3 as of this writing).
Android is tougher since I don't have access to any kind of device that runs it. If someone has issues with layout on an Android device, I'll have to try to figure out how to solve it without having direct access myself :)
Posted by PurpleChest on 2011-05-23 14:03:17
now first sentance says 'push towards PATEL' which is a little racist (common asian name)
I dont like pastel, i wont pretend i do. Its Fugly.
But i changed the second you said old themes were dead and i wont change back. I'd sort of figured there were the sort of reason you state.
Into the brave, though fugly, new world.
Posted by jarvis_pants on 2011-05-23 14:08:22
LOVE the new layout. Going to be great for newcomers.
I would like it if the big fumbbl button at the top took you to your home, overview.
And would love it if we could see peoples BBWR as there are some sneaky top coaches hiding behind quite low CR ratings. :P
Apart from that great work and keep it up.
Posted by Sammler_der_Seelen on 2011-05-23 14:15:36
Im not familar with the change but at least i think i can live with all what you do (a good argument is the to much work for to less effect part)but at least we are here to play,im sure thats possible in the future so go change when it helps you to have less work espically you do that all for free.
Thx for it and for my last 4 years of online carnage:D
Posted by Bobs on 2011-05-23 14:18:29
I love everything that happens here.
Change is good when it is for the better.
Better in this case is making things easier for you in the long run meaning more love for the site and I can keep playing bloodbowl in an environment i love.
Too many forget that this is essentially a free site manned by volunteers so that the majority can seamlessly enjoy a great online experience.
Dont know where in that there is reason to whinge, bitch and complain. :)
Posted by BlizzBirne on 2011-05-23 14:20:21
sense making is the best way to deal with resistance to changes. well done, sir. :-)
just one idea (without me being able to technically judge it): if each users data would contain a list of favourite sites of FUMBBL for a quick-link-menu on the left (as in the aggressive themes), then the personalization would make the new design really close to perfect.
as a recent newcomer to FUMBBL i have to admit that the new theme is more intuitive than the old standard.
keep up your good work and dedication to this site!
Posted by DatMonsta on 2011-05-23 14:41:32
Hey Christer, even i was a user of the "plastic" theme i'm happy with your changes and thank you for you good arguments why you did so. I think evrybody will understand your reasons and even me will get used to the "new" look and menue-structure. And, damn it, don't we all love the pictures?
hell yeah, we do!
Thanks for all your work on FUMBBL, you are very kind to your people, great emperor C^^
Posted by SvenS on 2011-05-23 15:01:59
Thx for explaining! Sounds good. I'm sure I'll get used to the new look eventually.
Posted by Grod on 2011-05-23 15:16:40
I've been using the new theme since it was available.
No complaints here about dropping support for the rest!
Posted by Calthor on 2011-05-23 15:45:16
I like the new theme a lot, but I also respect this explanation blog even more. Thank you, as always.
Posted by Sigmar1 on 2011-05-23 17:26:55
Who is this Christer clown and why does he seem to have so much authority?
Keep up the great work. Looks like I better start adapting to the new theme and give up me ol' Root.
Posted by Cavetroll on 2011-05-23 17:35:48
Thanks for the detailed explanation, Christer, and for all your hard work improving this site. I've been trying the new theme out for about a week now and it's growing on me. I'm sure others will get used to it in time. Try not to let the complaints get you down too much. I appreciate what you are doing, and I'm sure others do as well.
Posted by Nhero on 2011-05-23 18:17:45
I've been using the new theme since it was available, and I like it.
As a web developer I fully understand the pain of testing every new page on all major browsers on all major OSes (and yes, I hate IE, every version of it).
As a user I run Opera on Ubuntu so I appreciate a lot the effort and professionalism you are putting in this awesome site.
Posted by Royston on 2011-05-23 19:49:56
Saw the new theme for the first time today and I like it a lot.
It is simplistic and aesthetically pleasing.
I particularly like the new Fumbbl screen. Before with the old standard green theme I'd rush to get to another page but this one will be of use and looks great.
Snappy, to the point and professional looking, just what Fumbbl needs to take it into the future.
Posted by avien on 2011-05-24 01:08:00
Thanks for the clearification. It's a blessing to read intelligent text, as it's so hard to come by these days.
Posted by bobafettsmum on 2011-05-24 09:25:41
I think the majority of us appreciate all your hard work & I for one am loving the new theme! Cheers.
Posted by Balle2000 on 2011-05-24 10:30:59
whatever lightens your workload is fine by me!
Posted by Adar on 2011-05-24 15:32:50
@Garion below the red bar at the top there is a thin white one that also serves as the background for the "did you know?" and number of coaches on the site.
Posted by KenThis on 2011-05-24 16:04:50
As always your explanations are rational well thought out and incredibly easy to understand and agree with.
Appreciate all the hard work behind the scenes that we only glimpse occasionally.
If these changes make your life easier and provide more time for life's little pleasures like sex and chocolate then I'm on board.
Viva la Christer Viva la Fumbbl.
PS for your perusal I've sent you some special pics of me and a jar of nutella. Enjoy or threaten the admins with them.