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2012-11-23 13:51:00
9 votes, rating 4.1
Fun with reptiles
TL;DR: Lizardmen are fun!

I recently wanted to help Kam find his first game, but all my teams were TV 1600+. So, I retired some lame box team, and made a new team. Since he was playing flings, I felt it would be nice to play a team that didn't start with block. I also wanted to try out something new, so I went with lizards for the first time. And boy are they FUN!

After that first game I decided I would make it my mission to focus entirely on developing my sauri. That meant not playing against claw-heavy teams, and trying not to play against too much AV9 (picker! /boo ; yes, I know).

It also meant making tons of 5+ hand off rolls. I initially expected that approach to result in a lot of losses, but surprisingly, it hasn't (lizards start Nov 8th). So far the team has made 59 TDs, 40 of which were made by sauri (15 by Scaly!). As a result, the sauri are getting pretty well developed.

I deliberately waited until late to acquire both mighty blow and break tackle, because a) mighty blow would scare off the squishies and b) both mighty blow and break tackle would diminish the focus on positioning, which is something I wanted to learn as I mainly play elves. Instead, after block most got guard and a few got tackle as first skill (except Bashy, who got blodge sidestep diving tackle, and Scaly, with his +ST).

One thing I'm still looking forward to is playing with some stars. I'd love to have a game 680k up at some point, where I could field both Slibli and Morg. There's something very cool about fielding a ST lineup of 6 5 5 4 4 4 4 4 4 2 2. Unfortunately, by the time I thought of this (looking at Chainsaw in Fishbowl), I was just a few 10Ks short.

Development-wise there are so many good saurus skills that I could imagine lacking kick and leader forever. One thing I'm still on the fence about is sure hands. Leap strip ball is a major threat to this team, and sure hands should also save some rerolls for those 5+ rolls.

So in short: if you're interested in playing a blocking but not really bashing game, give lizards a go!
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Posted by CroixFer on 2012-11-23 15:07:41
Being a slann coach as you are, the lizards are the cousins of the slann and thus should be high in your top list race. You decided to forget about skinks (wise decission) but having a couple of them developed can give you an edge for a coming major :))
Posted by the_Sage on 2012-11-23 15:40:13
Having one equipped for oneturning is nice.
So far I've rolled 3x +AG, but 2 on sauri and one on a Krox, so no help.
Posted by numbersix on 2012-11-23 15:43:36
I really enjoyed playing with your team. It was quite a surprise to see the sauri score! Good work!
Posted by Nelphine on 2012-11-23 16:02:57
having played with a very developed set of Saurus (and an agi 5 legendary skink), I can say: all those saurus skills are awesome, EXCEPT against Chaos/Nurgle. You can outmuscle everyone else, but 4+ S4 claw players just eat through you too fast.

Also, you tend to end up the highest TV around, so as much as it's fun to dream, I could never get inducements, let alone 700k inducements.

So.

For tournaments, you HAVE to have lesser developed Saurus, and at least one more developed skink (so 2 in total), or you have serious issues with developed chaos/nurgle teams.
Posted by Hitonagashi on 2012-11-23 16:44:56
I've fielded Sili and Morg together with a full saurus squad 3-4 times.

They are good, but not as good as you'd expect. Mainly because 700 TV is a *lot*.

Every race is massively powered up by then, and they can mostly deal with a much lower skilled squad. The hybrids have the most trouble with it, as they can get outbashed quite easily. Bashers just play as normal against it, as do elves, and you are usually lacking either tackle or guard. Most people are adept at shortmanning morg. The downfall is always the double both down. Not worth a (loner) reroll, but prevents you moving morg into cover, and then he's stuck on a lino for the game.

One thing you might not realise is that Lizardmen are one of the strongest low TV races. At 1300 TV, I think they are the strongest race around.
Posted by the_Sage on 2012-11-23 17:00:28
Thanks for the advice Nelphine and Hitonagashi.

@Nelphine I can see chaos and nurgle just blasting through your sauri, yeah.

@Hito: I didn't realize that before I started playing them. I do now though!
Posted by Rabe on 2012-11-24 00:59:12
Dwarves vs. Lizardman is always an interesting setup (in my opinion). Can go either way, often depending on (bad) luck on one side. Both teams can play to their strength and need to be careful with their weaknesses.

That being said, I know a dwarf team that likes encounters with other not too bashy bash teams. ;-)
Posted by the_Sage on 2012-11-24 10:28:43
@Rabe: Yeah, that does sound interesting.
As you say, both get blocky and guardy (strengths) while blockle (MB) can quickly destroy skinks, and MA8 can outmanouver dwarves.
I think in matches like that lizards' break tackle could really shine to overcome the status quo.