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Secret League 2 new rosters and year 4 update
First of all the 2 new rosters that have gone live today are -

Ninja Flings
Cult of Urlic

Sort of a change, sort of a new team but Snotling teams have transformed in to Troll teams because there is now an official Snotling team.


Next up the list of rosters/races that have been Locked meaning they will not change again Though obviously with the new edition on the horizon we will see all rosters updated, so this lock has less meaning than it used to. It does still mean me and the team of developers/testers are all happy with how these rosters are performing, their balance and so on. Anyway here is the locked list -

Half-Elf, Half-Orc, Night Goblin, Forest Goblin, Snakemen, Skryre, Giant, Gnoblar, Lumbria, Ogre Kingdom, Pirate, Ethereal, Estalia, Hobgoblin, Squig, Nippon, Daemons of Tzeentch

Finally the most painful part Changes to existing teams, most are pretty minor tweaks, there are one or two bigger ones. If end up with any strange players as a result of these changes like a player with Block twice for example then contact me and I will fix it.

Also if anyone wants to know more info about the changes then you can read about them on the relevant team page under Season 4 changes.

The changes –

Slaanesh - Slaangor 7347 horns PT, 100k

Khorne - lose mino gain blood beast, 140k 5528, loner, Wa, Frenzy, Claw, Thick Skull

Minotaur - Doombull gets av9 Bone Head 160k

Slayer Team - Linemen get Av8, plus dauntless. Pirate changed to slayer runner dropping strip ball for SH +MA 90k

Mahrak - AV9 +10k on the golden company

DoN - lose Guard on the Nurglings, gain Swarming, Monstrous mouth on PBs

Myrmidia - drop Dauntless for Jump Up

Undead Pirates - Lose loner on the captain

Strigoi get A access

Dust Goblins - Removed Disposable

Witch Hunters - Flagellants gain Thick Skull for free.

Flesh Golems - Swap Wrestle for Block on Patchworkmen

Daemons of Tzeentch - Pro on Greater Daemon

Elemental - +apo

Kislev - +Ma to wings, now 90k

Night Goblins now have a Stone Troll and Forest Goblins gain a River Troll, both in line with the one in the Troll team.

Fimir redesign -
0-16 Shearl 5 3 2 8 G 30k
0-4 Fimm 6 3 2 9 Prehensile Tail GS 60k
0-2 Fianna Fimm 5 4 1 9 Prehensile Tail, Multiblock, Disturbing Presence GS 120k
0-2 Lesser Daemon 7 3 3 7 Dodge GA 70

N.B. sisters of sigmar are also possibly going to change in someway, but we are still thrashing this one out. So stay tuned to see what happens here. :)
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Posted by MattDakka on 2020-11-24 15:35:36
All nice changes! Thanks for your work, Garion and all the SL crew!
Posted by Patator on 2020-11-24 15:41:20
Wooow ! Minor changes? Some of those are big. I love most of those and especially the new rosters.

Thanks for your work !
Posted by Crook666 on 2020-11-24 15:54:38
Great job, keep it up!
Posted by MattDakka on 2020-11-24 16:08:44
P.S. the new Fimir team icons are really great, impressive artwork! Love them and the Shearl addition, the team has more flavour now.
Posted by MattDakka on 2020-11-24 16:15:14
A small suggestion: would be nice to have the tier of each SL team included in the roster. I know it's explained in the rationale, but would be nice to have it inside the roster grid too.
Posted by Patator on 2020-11-24 16:17:31
Just realized that there is no change to avelorn in the end. A little surprised about it.
Posted by koadah on 2020-11-24 16:18:14
Ninja Flings!!!

Christmas has come early! :)
Posted by Garion on 2020-11-24 17:03:23
yeah Avelorn are fine. They are certainly tip top tier 1 like wood elves, almost as good as wood elves. Maybe even as good. But deffo not better.

Elves are just awesome!

Posted by koadah on 2020-11-24 17:14:12
Though, I'm guessing that they play more tier two opposition.

Perhaps we need a Tier Two Cup. ;)
Posted by Nelphine on 2020-11-24 17:18:23
Fiana Fimms seem overpriced compared to almost every other strength 4 player. Multiblock simply wastes space (tv wise even if it fits the flavor). The closest comparison is a Nurgle Bloater, who is cheaper, and (in my opinion) clearly better. (However, I REALLY like the Lesser Daemon change, and overall I think the team has definitely improved.)
Posted by grrrreindeer on 2020-11-24 17:42:51
I skilled up a doombull to AV9 - suppose this would affect him?

when does this take effect?
Posted by MattDakka on 2020-11-24 17:50:19
@grrrreindeer: as far as I know, even if the roster page doesn't display the changes of season 4, you should see them in game.
That means that the +1 AV boost you took should stack with the new Doombull's AV 9, bringing it up to 10 in game.
Posted by grrrreindeer on 2020-11-24 17:53:02
ah yeah, you're probably right. seems a bit of a waste, but it is what it is I guess. never had an AV10 player before anyway, why not now? :D
Posted by MattDakka on 2020-11-24 17:55:36
Alternatively, just fire him when you can replace him.
Posted by grrrreindeer on 2020-11-24 17:57:36
you mad? he's the hero of the team!
Posted by MattDakka on 2020-11-24 17:59:47
Claw is common in SL, just saying. ;)
Posted by grrrreindeer on 2020-11-24 18:01:06
doesn't take much to be the hero of any of my teams, sadly :/
Posted by Garion on 2020-11-24 18:01:07
that's a myth, I gave that data for it in a forum, less teams have claw in SL than they do in the normal game, proportionally. its just people gravitate towards claw, those teams get played more because people like blood :D
Posted by Garion on 2020-11-24 18:02:01
Also if the change does not appear to have taken effect on the site contact me, I can do a "magic Fix"
Posted by MattDakka on 2020-11-24 18:02:48
Yes, to be accurate: there is less Claw proportionally but Claw teams are often picked by people.
There is less Tackle too, proportionally speaking, compared to default teams.
Posted by Doofr on 2020-11-24 18:11:33
Dont understand why Dust Goblins got disposable removed and the apo on elemenary , thought they were so strong that apo was removed :o

But surely you know waht you do...
Posted by MattDakka on 2020-11-24 18:13:24
With incoming buffed fouling, I guess Disposable had to be removed.
Just my personal guess, though.
Posted by mekutata on 2020-11-24 18:34:17
biutiful river trolls
Posted by Diablange on 2020-11-25 13:50:18
Are there any stats for ninja flings yet ? They don't look THAT terrible, with ag4 and 2 very reliable (too much for a stunty roster ?) team-mate throwers. I'd be curious to know how they did so far. :)
Posted by Garion on 2020-11-25 17:41:57
they are firmly tier 3. The loss of 2xSt6 is huge
Posted by Jogrenaught on 2020-11-25 19:05:01
I highly disagree with disposable being removed from dust goblins.

You gonna take the dust goblin roster, that never actually ranks very high in anything, and stick it with the nerf bat because... you didnt win good enough playing against them?

I guess in the grand scheme of things, what makes secret league so cool is that even when your fav team become less fun to play, you have a whole host of other options to choose from. So ill look forward to the positive.

The other and most important positive being THANK YOU for maintaining the SL and looking into changes. Its a lot of work and stuff I cant do so I really appreciate it. Were getting ready to dive into Turkey day here in the states so, while we may not see eye on the disposeable thing, thank you thank you thank you thank you for what you do.

Posted by Garion on 2020-11-25 21:00:42
that's not why the disposable was removed.