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2021-10-11 20:26:41
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6 votes, rating 5.3
Badly hurt still exists right?
https://fumbbl.com/p/team?id=1049309
Yes I know with the thousands of games played on this site it's a statistical certainty, but I was still quite impressed/outraged when I notice my shiny new (2nd attempt) Dark Elf side had taken 13 cas, of which 12 were serious injuries and one was a death. I'm nigh certain I didn't apo a badly hurt in that time either. Obviously, as soon as I mentioned it, we took three badly hurt in a row and I apoed a ko in the sure knowledge that I was due about ten bh consecutively. I heard rumour from PC that the injury chart had changed (I'm a teacher so I'm damned if I'm reading the rulebook from cover to cover - the irony is not lost on me) so maybe this is just standard stuff. Anyone had a worse start and kept going long enough to know?
Yes I know with the thousands of games played on this site it's a statistical certainty, but I was still quite impressed/outraged when I notice my shiny new (2nd attempt) Dark Elf side had taken 13 cas, of which 12 were serious injuries and one was a death. I'm nigh certain I didn't apo a badly hurt in that time either. Obviously, as soon as I mentioned it, we took three badly hurt in a row and I apoed a ko in the sure knowledge that I was due about ten bh consecutively. I heard rumour from PC that the injury chart had changed (I'm a teacher so I'm damned if I'm reading the rulebook from cover to cover - the irony is not lost on me) so maybe this is just standard stuff. Anyone had a worse start and kept going long enough to know?
Comments
Posted by C0ddlefish on 2021-10-11 21:06:21
Badly Hurt now 6 in 16 so should be less frequent than before.
Death 2 in 16
The rest MNG (3 in 16), MNG + Niggle (3 in 16), MNG + Perm (2 in 16)
Death 2 in 16
The rest MNG (3 in 16), MNG + Niggle (3 in 16), MNG + Perm (2 in 16)
Posted by neilwat on 2021-10-11 21:10:31
I am really feeling that those MNGs seem to stack up quick
Posted by Stimme on 2021-10-11 21:19:04
If I had a nickle for every niggle...
Posted by ClayInfinity on 2021-10-11 21:59:08
Niggle is better though in that it only adds +1 to the d16 CAS roll and not +1 to the injury roll... but yes, my cas distribution is very Serious Injury centric
Posted by Rags on 2021-10-12 00:05:12
If you're not one to pore over, analyse (and maybe post some premature judgements on) every word of the rulebook before actually playing the new game, part of the fun is realising some things are different from play and then digging in to the rules to understand what's going on.
I found out about he new more generous winnings system in a nice way, by realising my Elven Union team seemed to be stacking cash at hitherto unknown rates could (briefly) afford a full roster of sixteen elves! (I know this is not recommended, but I did anyway becuase I could)
Only then did I ponder how this might be intended to interact with the new upskilling system. It's like a trove of new toys of waiting to be unearthed!
For all those coaches months ahead of me - more power to you!
I found out about he new more generous winnings system in a nice way, by realising my Elven Union team seemed to be stacking cash at hitherto unknown rates could (briefly) afford a full roster of sixteen elves! (I know this is not recommended, but I did anyway becuase I could)
Only then did I ponder how this might be intended to interact with the new upskilling system. It's like a trove of new toys of waiting to be unearthed!
For all those coaches months ahead of me - more power to you!
Posted by MattDakka on 2021-10-12 01:29:27
In the old rules BH was 50%, 50% MNG or dead.
In BB2020 the D16 table is:
1-6: Badly Hurt 37.5%
7-9: Seriously Hurt (MNG) 18.75%
10-12: Seriously Injury (NI) 18.75%
13-14: Lasting Injury (Stat reduction) 12.5%
15-16: Dead 12.5%
bad news: BH is less common now, 37.5% and MNG or Dead is more common, 62.5%.
good news: you can keep a player with a niggling now.
In BB2020 the D16 table is:
1-6: Badly Hurt 37.5%
7-9: Seriously Hurt (MNG) 18.75%
10-12: Seriously Injury (NI) 18.75%
13-14: Lasting Injury (Stat reduction) 12.5%
15-16: Dead 12.5%
bad news: BH is less common now, 37.5% and MNG or Dead is more common, 62.5%.
good news: you can keep a player with a niggling now.
Posted by MattDakka on 2021-10-12 01:31:32
And, since PA is not important for certain players, you could keep a player with -PA too.
Posted by mister__joshua on 2021-10-12 11:10:23
And though everything Matt says is correct, just breaking it down into simple stats on a roster, you will now see BH:SI:Dead in a ration 3:4:1 whereas before it was 3:2:1, so as a proportion of Cas suffered, SIs will be the highest stat (though your DEs were still statistically unlikely).
Posted by Sp00keh on 2021-10-12 12:05:58
@Rags with the fast cash and new upskilling, yes it does seem like now it is viable to get 3spp, take a random skill, and cycle the ones you don't like pretty quickly
Posted by MattDakka on 2021-10-12 13:16:56
A strategic consideration about the less common BH/more common MNG and Dead is that the Apo is worse now.
If you play with the aim of winning the current game, without caring about long-term player preservation, there is lower chance that a player you want to keep on the pitch will be BH because most injuries are MNG and the Apo does not automatically heal them.
This is what bothers me about the new Injury table.
If you play with the aim of winning the current game, without caring about long-term player preservation, there is lower chance that a player you want to keep on the pitch will be BH because most injuries are MNG and the Apo does not automatically heal them.
This is what bothers me about the new Injury table.
Posted by Joost on 2021-10-12 13:25:12
The only logical conclusion is that Nuffle does not approve of untying dark hearts. Repent!
Posted by Rags on 2021-10-13 11:26:46
@Sp00keh good call thanks - was being prissy about random skills