20 coaches online • Server time: 09:38
* * * Did you know? Up until now, 1485932 players have died on the pitch.
Log in
Recent Forum Topics goto Post Secret Stunty Cup - ...goto Post DIBBL Awardsgoto Post Blood Bowl 2024 Edit...
Enigma179
Last seen 9 years ago
Overall
Rookie
Overall
CR
1250
Record
0/0/0
Win Percentage
n/a
Archive

2013

2013-07-22 06:36:51
rating 4.4
2013-07-19 05:21:11
rating 4.9

2012

2012-10-13 04:01:59
rating 4.4
2012-10-01 16:52:26
rating 4.6
2012-09-23 15:32:21
rating 4.3
2012-09-10 15:14:12
rating 4.9
2012-09-08 15:09:34
rating 4.6
2012-04-21 04:21:47
rating 2.8
2012-04-20 13:19:34
rating 5.1
2012-04-14 16:27:04
rating 5.4
2012-03-31 16:27:47
rating 3.1
2012-02-15 15:29:10
rating 5.6
2012-01-25 16:32:43
rating 2.9
2012-01-22 11:06:12
rating 5.1
2012-01-01 16:54:50
rating 4.7

2011

2011-11-11 01:08:21
rating 5
2011-11-10 12:01:34
rating 4.7
2011-11-04 16:51:41
rating 5.1
2011-10-30 09:34:17
rating 4.7
2011-10-08 12:01:07
rating 4.8
2011-10-01 14:15:34
rating 3.7
2011-09-28 12:16:21
rating 4.6
2011-09-17 14:37:19
rating 4.1
2011-09-09 18:33:19
rating 4.3
2011-08-29 14:50:16
rating 4.2
2011-07-26 07:42:32
rating 4.8
2011-07-23 17:35:55
rating 5.1
2011-07-23 02:08:08
rating 5.5
2011-07-22 22:32:21
rating 4.9
2011-07-21 18:41:24
rating 4.1
2011-07-11 21:56:36
rating 4.7
2011-05-14 12:43:39
rating 4.6
2011-05-12 05:18:07
rating 5.1
2011-04-07 04:21:46
rating 3.3
2011-04-02 16:08:08
rating 4.1
2011-03-13 12:50:46
rating 4.1
2011-02-19 03:55:31
rating 2.5
2011-01-14 13:25:22
rating 4.2
2011-01-13 13:38:24
rating 4.3

2010

2010-11-18 00:38:54
rating 3.9
2011-02-19 13:12:49
31 votes, rating 5.4
Interesting thing I just found out about passing
If one GFI will bring your chance to pass up by one...

2+ and 5+ vs. 6+ : 10/36 vs. 6/36 (Go for it)

2+ and 4+ vs. 5+ : 15/36 vs. 12/36 (Go for it)

2+ and 3+ vs. 4+ : 20/36 vs. 18/36 (Go for it)

2+ and 2+ vs. 3+ : 25/36 vs. 24/36 (Go for it)

If two gfis do it though:

2+, 2+ and 5+ vs. 6+ : 50/216 vs. 36/216 (Go for it)

2+, 2+ and 4+ vs. 5+ : 75/216 vs. 72/216 (Go for it)

2+, 2+ and 3+ vs. 4+ : 100/216 vs. 108/216 (Do the pass)

2+, 2+ and 2+ vs. 3+ : 125/216 vs. 144/216 (Do the pass)

Just did the math and found it out, just thought you might be interested.
Rate this entry
Comments
Posted by Cyrus-Havoc on 2011-02-19 13:40:01
So one GFI is always worth it but 2 only at the longer ranges.
Posted by PeteW on 2011-02-19 13:41:26
What about if you have pass skill? Or pass and a RR? Or sure feet? Or sure feet, pass and a RR!?!
Posted by gjopie on 2011-02-19 13:56:20
The other thing I've learnt (to my cost), is that sometimes you need to consider the relative dangers of a failed GFI vs a misthrown pass. Sometimes it is better to just get the ball out of there and retrieve it next turn, in which case you shouldn't risk the GFI and should just throw. Unless the risk of a fumble is high.

You're right though, the maths is interesting.
Posted by JimmyFantastic on 2011-02-19 14:42:14
Your man can died on GFI so broken RNG says pass
Posted by nin on 2011-02-19 14:47:24
I think that PeteW's questions there are undue cruelty...
Posted by Enigma179 on 2011-02-19 15:51:15
@Pete: Hehe, maybe I'll do that right now...

@gjopie: Hmm, while you have a point, and the risk of falling down is situationally quite a bit worse then that of failing the pass, I'm just dealing with turnovers for simplicity's sake. I'm in the camp of winning first, preserving second, so I'll take whatever gives me the best chance to succeed on the pass :)

Posted by Enigma179 on 2011-02-19 16:20:56
Kay screw it, here goes. And yes, I did the math right, factoring in that you can't use rerolls more than once. Just for you, pete. Stats for other stuff later, this is just team reroll with one GFI

One GFI w/reroll:

2+ and 5+ vs. 6+ : 110/216 vs. 66/216 (Go for it)

2+ and 4+ vs. 5+ : 150/216 vs. 120/216 (Go for it)

2+ and 3+ vs. 4+ : 180/216 vs. 162/216 (Go for it)

2+ and 2+ vs. 3+ : 200/216 vs. 192/216 (Go for it)

So far, working with one-use rerolls seems to work out to the same final results as without them. At least my noggin's getting a bit of a work out, been a long time since I've done probabilities. More later.
Posted by Rabe on 2011-02-19 18:10:17
Good work - although I found something similar earlier on the web:
http://slobb.doubleskulls.net/gfi.php

I tried to get some simple rules based on those numbers into my head, but it's easier to look it up, I think. ;-)
Posted by TheCount on 2011-02-20 22:48:32
I would prefer to not go for it in the most usual cases, cause you can fall over on the GFI try. The ball falls down and causes an easy steal for the opponent often. Of course this depends on the situation, but mathhammer isnt everything.