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2011-10-15 20:34:18
12 votes, rating 3.5
12 votes, rating 3.5
Skaven LRBF Expansion Roster Concept
0-16 Base:
0-16 Linerats
0-8 Positionals
0-1 Rat Ogre
0-2 Thrower 60k
0-4 Stormvermin
0-4 Gutter Runners
RRs: 60k
Roster Bribes: 100k
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Intention:
Skaven are a well balanced race, just a roster that could benefit with more variety in composition (lots of rosters have this issue, LRBF looks to open up the rosters at the higher TV levels). Here they get a chance to boost their AV and add to their Storm Vermin ranks. It if now possible to see a team with 4 Stormvermin and 4 Gutter Runners on the field at the same time. This comes at both the sacrifice of the new cheaper thrower/unstable Rat Ogre and a higher TV (SV are not cheap).
Throwers were cheapened because now the positional limit means their is an increased "opportunity cost". Each thrower means you are throwing away a positional spot that could be a brutal Stormvermin or a gamebreaking Gutter Runner.
__Synn
0-16 Linerats
0-8 Positionals
0-1 Rat Ogre
0-2 Thrower 60k
0-4 Stormvermin
0-4 Gutter Runners
RRs: 60k
Roster Bribes: 100k
_____
Intention:
Skaven are a well balanced race, just a roster that could benefit with more variety in composition (lots of rosters have this issue, LRBF looks to open up the rosters at the higher TV levels). Here they get a chance to boost their AV and add to their Storm Vermin ranks. It if now possible to see a team with 4 Stormvermin and 4 Gutter Runners on the field at the same time. This comes at both the sacrifice of the new cheaper thrower/unstable Rat Ogre and a higher TV (SV are not cheap).
Throwers were cheapened because now the positional limit means their is an increased "opportunity cost". Each thrower means you are throwing away a positional spot that could be a brutal Stormvermin or a gamebreaking Gutter Runner.
__Synn
Comments
Posted by Gromrilram on 2011-10-16 12:03:42
considering that fielding a roger always was a questionable tactics to beginn with and that throwers were not essential as well as often a gutter runner can do the job better, you basically doubled the amount of stormvermins.
i daresay the allready strong roster got a bit better, what i dont mind, but if your goal is to get more variety, i think you might get the opposite result, i dont think we would see a lot difference to 4 vermin 4 gutter...
i daresay the allready strong roster got a bit better, what i dont mind, but if your goal is to get more variety, i think you might get the opposite result, i dont think we would see a lot difference to 4 vermin 4 gutter...
Posted by the_Sage on 2011-10-16 18:28:47
+1 Gromm
Posted by Irgy on 2011-10-17 00:02:51
A team shouldn't have 11 positionals. I realise orcs have 13, but that's a big part of what's wrong with orcs anyway. Maybe 0-3 vermin and 0-3 runners? I always thought 4 gutter runners was ridiculous anyway.
I don't see what the trade-off is for having more storm vermin either, they're just flat out better than linerats. The extra cost doesn't mean much in a long term open league.
Or am I missing something? Is there a house rule in LRBF that says no more than 8 positionals on a team or something?
I don't see what the trade-off is for having more storm vermin either, they're just flat out better than linerats. The extra cost doesn't mean much in a long term open league.
Or am I missing something? Is there a house rule in LRBF that says no more than 8 positionals on a team or something?
Posted by Gromrilram on 2011-10-17 16:39:08
there is no house rule on fumbbl, but thats what synn is suggesting.